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Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by Aurornis »

Since the Tweet is small enough and a lot of people aren’t reading it (Twitter links don’t work well for those without an account some times) I’ll quote it here

> Hey Nico,

> It looks like you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark's open source and enterprise-licensed code.

> We demand you take this copyright and license infringing product down immediately.

> It's not moving fast and breaking things, it's fraud.

> It makes the rest of your business questionable and the YC community look terrible.

Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by irdc »

jdietrich wrote: post #31
irdc wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is busy destroying my art and my livelihood. Fighting back is about as psychotic as drapetomania[0] was. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania

Has any group of workers ever "won" a long-term victory against a new technology? There are plenty of short-term concessions made in the face of powerful trade union opposition, but I can't think of any technology that was just stopped dead to appease workers with obsolete skills.

That assumes we're talking about technologies that are legal and in some way beneficial. AI is basically large-scale copyright infringement. If allowed to continue, human authors (I'm including programmers here) will eventually just stop publishing, because why feed the machine that's busy replacing you? You're not even getting paid for it, because the magic box can do the same thing you can for cheaper.

Thing is, everything AI produces is derivative; it cannot make anything truly original. Therefore widespread AI adoption will inevitably lead to scientific and cultural stagnation.

So we'll have our magic box that can perform our every wish. And we'll all be worse off for it.

Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by josephg »

carlosjobim wrote: post #23

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FOSS doesn't mean you give up all rights to your work. In this case, the software is AGPL licensed, which imposes huge list of requirements on copies - including attribution and sharing back changes.

FOSS != public domain.

Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by Sanzig »

wolttam wrote: post #22

Folks... read the actual tweet. They literally didn't vibe code it - they copy-pasted another project.

Yeah, the title that the OP chose is so sufficiently misleading that I think this one will need to be get changed by the mods. Seitz isn't opining on the ethics of vibe coding in his tweet, he's pointing out that Corgi literally just stole Papermark's AGPL codebase and passed it off as vibe coding.

Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by galangalalgol »

lenerdenator wrote: post #11
irdc wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Papermark is AGPL; Corgi must release all its changes.

That means they're not complying with the license terms. Which would be stealing. Like I said it would be.

Copyright violation is not theft. Your effort to create something that can be effortlessly copied conveys to you no property. Society deems it beneficial to grant a time limited monopoly on copying it to spur innovation.

Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by jazz9k »

elric wrote: post #33
carlosjobim wrote: post #23

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What a load of crock. FOSS licenses were obviously written in the spirit of sharing with humans . Some later licenses made the license less amenable for sharing with corporations because some authors didn't feel like they were being treated fairly. Some authors today have similar feelings about their code being used by Gen AI. It is perfectly fine for authors to want to place restrictions on how they want others to u…

Developers gave their code out for free, but want to discriminate against people they don't like from using it in ways they dislike.

The 'spirit of free software' is bullshit. It's software authoritarianism disguised as a noble cause.

Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by jknoepfler »

Sanzig wrote: post #45
wolttam wrote: post #22

Folks... read the actual tweet. They literally didn't vibe code it - they copy-pasted another project.

Yeah, the title that the OP chose is so sufficiently misleading that I think this one will need to be get changed by the mods. Seitz isn't opining on the ethics of vibe coding in his tweet, he's pointing out that Corgi literally just stole Papermark's AGPL codebase and passed it off as vibe coding.

It's nearly word-for-word the content of the tweet. Right at the top. It isn't misleading unless you literally don't even bother to open the linked content.

Just ban users who comment without reading, I think that would go further to keep the quality of discussion high.

The number of bots/trolls responding to the title without reading the content and missing the point entirely is astounding, honestly, and I don't think any of those posts are contributing to high quality discussion. We could do without those users.

"but but but I can't/won't open twitter links" - then don't flap your yak-hole. Ignoring for a moment that the content has been reproduced in full in this thread, and another user has provided an alternative xcancel link.

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