Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade

Post by rchaud » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 7:32 PM UTC

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German news media clearly say that it's not about DIRECT asking for more money. In Europe a lot of countries have a system of "Tarifvertrag" ("tarrif contract", but really "collective agreement"). In such contracts the workers union of a section (e.g. metal) do a contract with the business union of the employers. They settle then down to "give 28 days of holidays and x EUR per month to each" ... and then they won't s…

> , as many US brainwashed business people Isn't Musk actually born South African? Then he became Canadian and lastly American? Not that it makes much of a difference, I just find it odd as labelling him as US brainwashed when canonically, his origin isn't the US.

Post by rchaud » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 7:37 PM UTC

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MANY things he does are explicitly to be liked. That’s why he posts all the time, goes on interviews, shows up on SNL. Buys a social media company then burns company hours on figuring out why he isn’t the most viewed person on it. He really, really, wants to be internet liked, that’s he claims he doesn’t care about.

I think that his political bloviating (to put it mildly) is best explained by Matt Levine's theory, that he wants to expand Tesla's appeal to conservatives. Getting plugged by Ramaswamy at the last Republican debate to cheers from the audience suggests it isn't the worst strategy. But Tesla's core product will still have issues with this segment, because conservatives are particularly suspicious of heavily computeriz…

Post by Hikikomori » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 7:39 PM UTC

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Unfortunately either side can't blink. IF Metall can't back down because then other companies could get ideas to leave. And Elmu doesn't want to back down because then other countries could get ideas about unionising which would affect their bottom line.

IF Metall hasn't played their best card yet. The finance industry union. If forced, they'll play that. That will freeze all transactions. Tesla won't be able to pay bills and won't be able to receive funds.

Post by hinkley » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 7:43 PM UTC

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What is the point of a union without collective bargaining is what I want to know. It sounds like what anti union people like to portray them as. A tax on employees and nepotism.

I'm part of a union in Sweden and my employer does not have a CBA, I get from my union: income insurance (up to 12 months covering 90% of my current salary), access to free consultation with lawyers, discounts on a few services (even driving schools), and a few other benefits. It's not a tax on employees, I consider it a quite cheap insurance.

Post by CogitoCogito » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 7:51 PM UTC

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They are not, surprisingly. I guess the reasoning is that during a normal winter they are required for maybe a few weeks. Many won't switch because they either don't want to pay for a second set of tires, or because it hurt fuel economy for most of the winter. All year tires are also somewhat popular, but they don't work as well in snow. You could probably get a fine for driving without them if the weather makes it u…

>They are not, surprisingly. That's absolutely insane. One would think the Nordics would be a bit morse sensible on this. Here in Austria they are mandatory between November and April even if you live in places that don't see much snow. Yeah, it's an added expense and PITA but when the snow does come it's overall way safer.