From what I understand the strikers aren't asking for more money or anything specific other than Tesla to honor collective bargaining with unions Tesla cannot have different deals with different shops, has to respect what it agrees with unions.
Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
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Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
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> If he wants to be remembered as the dude global labor had to organize against, I mean, the bar is already pretty low where he's at but perhaps we have yet to hit bedrock. Probably with a bit to be said about dying a hero or living long enough to become the villain through the appropriate lens. Highly recommend watching the full interview that Andrew Ross Sorkin did with Elon Musk (it is the one where he told advert…
His behavior on X seems to contradict that though. What does any of that have to do with building the best products?
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#63This and the Danish solidarity actions are mainly to prevent Tesla from shipping cars meant for the Swedish market to Danish or Norwegian ports and then trucking them to Sweden. The Swedish transport union stopped unloading Tesla cars at Swedish ports November 7, but Tesla Y was still one of the most sold car models in Sweden in November (second place between Volvo XC40 and XC60).
I believe that Tesla does not need ships to transport Tesla Model Ys from Giga Berlin to Sweden. They can use railroad. Or trucks.
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MANY things he does are explicitly to be liked. That’s why he posts all the time, goes on interviews, shows up on SNL. Buys a social media company then burns company hours on figuring out why he isn’t the most viewed person on it. He really, really, wants to be internet liked, that’s he claims he doesn’t care about.
> MANY things he does are explicitly to be liked. That’s why he posts all the time, goes on interviews, shows up on SNL. Buys a social media company to goose his number of views. > He really, really, wants to be internet liked, that’s he claims he doesn’t care about. If that were true, then why consciously piss so many people off?
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#65Are all people represented by unions in Sweden? If so, this situation makes more sense to me. It could be seen more as preserving the culture of Sweden than just an act against one company. If not, why are the unions not ganging up on other companies?
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His behavior on X seems to contradict that though. What does any of that have to do with building the best products?
How does his behavior on X contradict it? I'm not following.
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To be fair, lack of labor regulations and "bending over to foreign investors", including German and EU ones, is what got Eastern Europe out if the grim post communism poverty. You can't have strong unions and labor regulations when you don't have your own captive world leading domestic industry like IKEA, Siemens, SAAB, Novo Nordisk, Bosch, Airbus, etc. Nobody would invest in your country.
That is not true, eastern Europe has strong labour laws. World leading companies were moving to eastern Europe because it was cheap. Both land and labour. In some cases comparable to china. It is an outsourcing hub, way to cut costs. You get same skill (or even more) in Poland as you can get in Germany, but for half price and slightly less bureaucracy.
Maybe compared to the US, but not compared to France, Germany or Nordics.
>World leading companies were moving to eastern Europe because it was cheap. Both land and labour.
The "cheap-ness" of labor is also related on the availability and strength of unions, lack of bureaucracy and red tape, taxes, worker's rights and social benefits, not just on their local supply/demand and purchasing power.
Having had strong unions in EE that could strike on a whim and demand better conditions, wouldn't have made it very attractive to foreign investors despite the lower wages.
In fact, the constant strikes in the early to mid '90's is what kept foreign investors away from Romania causing it to fall behind most of its post comunist neighbors at the time.
Foreign investors are also looking for stability, not just cheap labor.
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
MANY things he does are explicitly to be liked. That’s why he posts all the time, goes on interviews, shows up on SNL. Buys a social media company then burns company hours on figuring out why he isn’t the most viewed person on it. He really, really, wants to be internet liked, that’s he claims he doesn’t care about.
Liked by certain interest groups and not others. Despite really disliking Elon as a whole, one thing I like about him is that he expresses himself like a human being, contrary to most of the HR/PR/D&I drones who claim he's an antisemite now.
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His behavior on X seems to contradict that though. What does any of that have to do with building the best products?
> His behavior on X seems to contradict that though. Then why piss off advertisers?
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A friend of mine was supposed to move from Berlin to München for a job during last Saturday. He can't, trains were fucked, airport was closed, flight canceled and you can't trust DB during the best of days and weather, no way to be sure you will get there unless you have a car. Seems to be a complete clusterfuck, as someone living in the Nordics it's pretty funny to think that a bit of snow can simply grind to a halt…
Southern Sweden with 80% of the Swedish population rarely sees much snow. A few centimeters can cause big problems there too.