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It requires a full VM. macOS is the only OS with that requirement.
And? It still runs fine.
It works. It doesn’t work fine. It breaks, sometimes in a way you need to manually clean it up.
Ode to the M1
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Re: Ode to the M1
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I have a 10 year old MacBook Pro that works perfectly too. Unfortunately, Apple doesn’t allow OS upgrades. I’ll probably get an M3 and use it for 8-10 years.
Thinkpad x220 checking in, still rocking my Sandy Lake and still enjoying a real keyboard. It's about 12 now. Other laptops have come and gone. I couldn't live with my macbook m1. I hated the keyboard and the desktop - why is there no delete key, pray? UTM crashed a lot. Asahi was lovely but I just didn't like touching the hardware.
I got my M1 Max MBP 14" at the end of 2021 (so almost 2 years ago now) and my previous machine was an X220. The main reasons I switched were:
- I was a consultant/contractor, and sometimes you have to run software you really don't want to (Citrix, Teams). You can kind of do this on Linux w/ emulation, but on an older machine it's painful.
- Can't drive a 4k monitor at 60fps
- 1366x768 is hard to webdev on
I also had a multi-machine setup so like, a Chromebook for being spied on, a Windows machine for gaming, and an air-gapped Windows machine for music production. My partner and I had decided to move abroad and it felt like a little much to bring 4 laptops over, so I reluctantly consolidated. In truth the only thing I really gave up was acquiescing to being spied on, but at this point that's more because I haven't set up a pi-hole (etc.) than anything.
I do miss (Arch) Linux, and obviously the X220 input system is unparalleled, but I'll say that I'm pretty accustomed to the MBP input system now (I learned Fn-Delete is actual delete, which actually improved my life significantly). I probably lost ~30WPM (I'm around 100-150WPM on a good keyboard) and it's definitely a worse ergonomic experience to have to leave home row to use the trackpad (you're telling me you want me to stretch my ulnar nerve even more?).
There are other niceties. My partner can airdrop me things. I can load truly ridiculous Excel spreadsheets. I can move my music production onto it. I can stream both an Snes9x emulator window and a webcam grab through OBS to game w/ my brother in the states.
Glossy screens on laptops don't make any sense to me though. The argument is you get better color reproduction, but there are great matte screens that do that (I have a 32" matte display with 100% AdobeRGB that proves it), and besides that, I bet if the difference matters to you you've got a high performance glossy screen on your desk in an office with controlled lighting. Laptops go places! Sometimes they're sunny! Matte screens please!
Re: Ode to the M1
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But it’s not like this design was a secret that Apple kept from you, this is well known information.
I honestly hope that EU regulatory pressure forces Apple to make their Macs more repairable. SSD failure = brick is just bad design.
Meanwhile in another HN thread - "muahaha, look at these Europoors, how your economy is stagnating, no successful startups, no innovation. That's all due to your overregulation!!!111" /s
Re: Ode to the M1
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But it’s not like this design was a secret that Apple kept from you, this is well known information.
Might not be a secret but it's not like Apple inform you on it. Looking at the product page you need to click on "How much is storage is right for you" to find a vague : "MacBook Air storage is not user accessible". What does accessible even mean ? Far from clear that even Apple won't upgrade/change it. And as for the boot issue it was not present on older modele and quite a lot of people only learned of it with the…
I would expect any person buying a device that costs a couple of thousand bucks to do some research before buying.
Re: Ode to the M1
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The problem is having to target 5 operating systems. Extremely complicated web app runs on Linux, Windows, Mac, Android, and iOS. Carefully-crafted Native UI widgets only target one platform at a time. If you want to get rid of Electron, you personally have to volunteer to be responsible for 5x the work of anyone else, and accept bootcamp-graduate pay. Do you see why it's not happening?
Arguably the success of MacOS has caused the expansion of Electron, because developers are using macs and want to use macs even when programming tools for windows.
Some (maybe Apple) ought to make a Swift -> Windows/Linux cross compiler...
Re: Ode to the M1
#2762020 M1 Air here, still running strong and will soon hit 3 years (bought the day it launched). So strong that despite finding the 15 inch air appealing just in terms of screen real estate, this current laptop doesn't feel dated. Especially since work provided me with an intel macbook pro with great spec but .. just doesn't compare with the exception of remote monitor count.
The remote monitor was huge for me - when we learned that the M1 could only do one external (without dirty tricks) I held off until the M1 Max. Multiple monitors is just a baseline requirement in my opinion.
Same, but since I'm only using a personal computer I attach it at home mostly to a huge monitor and is ok that way.
For work, at least 2 is desired.
Re: Ode to the M1
#2772020 M1 Air here, still running strong and will soon hit 3 years (bought the day it launched). So strong that despite finding the 15 inch air appealing just in terms of screen real estate, this current laptop doesn't feel dated. Especially since work provided me with an intel macbook pro with great spec but .. just doesn't compare with the exception of remote monitor count.
It’s a 3 year old laptop, it better not feel dated
Give me a 3 year old laptop from anywhere else, I'd say they have dated.
Re: Ode to the M1
#278I wish I could upgrade from my 13" mbp that's the last of the intel i5 series. My 16" M1 Max that I was issued at my last job was a dream, and now that I'm playing with SwiftUI and dealing with xcode, it's feeling slow and noisy. Unfortunately I was laid off, so no M1, and the ram upgrade to the 64gb or 96gb is insultingly expensive still. As nice as it is, it isn't a $4k boost in productivity.
$4k / ($your-total-cost * 3). Assuming 3 years of ownership. Tools are not only a laptop but the idea, I believe, is valid.
If it's worth upgrading to, it's worth keeping for way longer than 3 years imo, but even then the amortized cost is quite high.
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#279I believed fanboyism was left at the 2010s
You were wrong. Ever hear people talking about AMD gpus online? It’s crazy how normalized it is for certain fanboys to just call everyone who disagrees with them “brainless”, “ruled by mindshare”, “buying it for the blue bubble”, etc. I see it all the time even on HN, it is crazy how normalized the android and AMD fans have made it to just insult a group of people to their faces. Even in a tightly moderated community…
What about NVIDIA fanbois?
They will buy NVIDIA, irrespective to whatever else is available at any given price point.
Re: Ode to the M1
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B+H has been periodically running deals on the loaded M1 Max 10C/32C 64GB/4TB for $3000-3200. https://slickdeals.net/f/16807523-apple-macbook-pro-16-2-lap... M1 Max doesn’t get the HDMI 2.1 port (although you can coerce some cablematters adapters to do it), or the Wi-Fi 6E, and the M2 Max is generally faster especially in gpu (at the cost of higher power - perf/w doesn’t change much) but in general it’s not worth pay…
(to be specific: M1 Max has HDMI 2.1 (including things like HDMI Org VRR afaik) but it's limited to 4K60. M2 gets 4K120 and some other features. As always, examine each device for the feature support you care about, because HDMI 2.1 completely supplants the HDMI 2.0 standard and no HDMI 2.0 certs are being issued anymore, so, "HDMI 2.1" devices can range between 4K120/8K support with 10-bit deep color, and 4K60 suppo…
Good to know about the sales, though being in Canada might hamper me there. The refurb and edu discounts are pretty decent though, and I'd probably consider those if I really start pursuing an upgrade.
HDMI has always been a bit irrelevant for me, aside from using it with work-issued displays. I've always used displayport over thunderbolt, and don't know that HDMI offers any advantages. I'd prefer almost any other port over HDMI.
My issue is more that every time I spec out a new MBP, it genuinely feels like I'm being grifted, and it really turns me off more than in the previous 10+ years I've been buying macs. $200 for a ram upgrade was already too high, and hurt the wallet then, but $500 - $1500 CAD for ram upgrades (inflated by the apparent, probably artificial, requirement to choose CPU upgrades that I'd never have in the past and wouldn't likely get any value from.
If I choose the minimum CPU that allows 64gb, I then need to spend an addition $750 to add 8 gpu cores and go up to 96gb (not that I'd necessarily go that high or feel like I'd need to, but it's not like I can upgrade, and just stands to illustrate the point). $750 is my damn rent payment.
So before even going past 512gb ssd or including Applecare or taxes, the computer sits at $5100 CAD, if I were to max out the ram, on the 14" new.