Ode to the M1

Post by ido » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 4:50 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #237

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I don’t think developers earn 5-10x more than 15 years ago. Assuming you’re using something like $250k as a typical salary (for dev jobs at US tech-hubs) I guarantee you the typical equivalent in 2008 was not $25-50k.

Average income in tech-hub area in 2007 was: $85,355 for "Software Developers"[0] Salary for developers that we discuss on HN seems to be in the region of $250k base, but that's not factoring in TC- which seems to be the bulk of income for the last 5 years. It's not unheard of around here to hear people talking about pulling in half-million if they are ex-FAANG. Which is nearly everybody these days. [0]: source is he…

Post by dnh44 » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 5:45 PM UTC

makeitdouble wrote: post #189

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Electron’s bloat and power consumption wouldn’t bother me so much if the performance was actually good on a fast machine. But the experience is awful compared to a native app.

My guess is that Slack for instance would never make a full blown native client for macos. If it wasn't electron, they'd probably have gone with Mono or another cross platform stack, and we'd see performance lag and memory bloat compared to a handcrafted native app. I say that looking at macos' pretty big market share compared to what it was a decade or two ago. And we see tons of users choosing VSCode or IntelliJ's…

Post by teknico » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 5:57 PM UTC

Post by bombcar » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 6:05 PM UTC

wiseowise wrote: post #242

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Electron is an example of modern software that’s slow. And it’s common and exceptionally slow. I think most software is designed to load once and never be quit; you’re probably just supposed to leave photosnot running in the background and let it swap to disk if needed. But I have a hard time running like that, I quit programs when I’m done using them.

Photoshop isn't Electron and yet it is slow. So is it Electron that sucks, or inefficient software sucks?

Post by bombcar » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 6:08 PM UTC

icedchai wrote: post #231

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If you’re concerned about electronic waste specifically you’d never buy a new computer, only repair computers destined for the trash. Concerned about it in general is appropriate for governments and large companies, of course; they can make a dent.

I go out of my way to recycle things appropriately: dropping off old computers at the local e-waste depo, recycling old rechargeable batteries at retail, etc. It may very well be pointless, but at least I feel I tried.