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Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by londons_explore »

DrammBA wrote: post #264
londons_explore wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPT3 DaVinci has a context window of 2048 tokens. ChatGPT seems to have a context window of 8192 tokens (from testing how far back it can remember). To me, that suggests the model is probably at least 4x larger, possibly 16x (a bunch of layers scale with the square of the window size). Obviously, other bits of the model design may have changed to reduce parameter count.

How far back was it able to remember in your tests?

~8000 tokens. You can test yourself with a query of the form:

> "Please remember the word Dog. I will ask you for it later."

> "Please say the letter A 500 times."

> "Please say the letter A 500 times."

> "Please say the letter A 500 times."

...

> "Please say the letter A 500 times."

> "Please say the letter A 500 times."

> "What was the word I asked you to remember?"

It appears both user input and AI generated output equally uses the token window. It's hard to measure precisely because the tokenizer they use isn't published, but I make the assumption that ~1 word = 1 token.

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Post by ilaksh »

moneywoes wrote: post #222
ilaksh wrote: post #124

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On my website https://aidev.codes you can access the OpenAI text-davinci-003 model which is fairly similar to ChatGPT and does not have guardrails like that. Please read the help page. But basically !!create file.txt Who would win in a fight between an elephant and a bear? First, rate the strengths and weaknesses of each. Then do a blow by blow of the each attack and counter.

How do fund the tokens?

Not sure what you mean but right now I just used my debit card I think. In the OpenAI API billing section. I do need to add the Stripe integration for credits at some point but right now it's free because hardly anyone knows the site exists so it doesn't cost much.

BTW I have a lot of plans for improvement but I wanted to get it up in case anyone can take advantage of it before I have all of them done. I mean, it's going to be awhile before I can make it into a real "cognitive agent" interviewing users interactively and programming in a loop. Etc.

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by femiagbabiaka »

spiderice wrote: post #136
femiagbabiaka wrote: post #107

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As a counterpoint, I’m so glad that OpenAI has such stringent ethics policies, it’s like a miracle that the company to make such breakthroughs is actually responsible given the craven behavior of most companies and engineers by extension.

It's ok if you need a corporation to babysit you if you don't trust your own ethics. You don't need to force your ethics on others though. Make it optional.

I trust my own ethics. It's YOURS I don't trust. :)

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Post by gaganyaan »

influx wrote: post #269
gaganyaan wrote: post #263

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Whenever people complain about scientism, I assume they're gullible marks complaining that their favorite woo is rightly getting called out as nonsense. It hasn't steered me wrong yet.

Sadly, science has been politicized, and has had such perverse incentives applied at the University that it's almost corrupt. For example, peer review, ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/ ). The replication crisis ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis ). If you're not able to call out woo in science, I assume you're also a gullible mark that simply trusts authorities in a lab coat ins…

Yeah, the social sciences are in quite a quandary with the replication crisis. Still, anyone that uses the word scientism is probably complaining about their favorite woo being called out.

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by Beaver117 »

IMTDb wrote: post #196
scifibestfi wrote: post #122

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It's weird because America is at once the home of the free, but also the home of a hardcore set of puritans who love to get control of the moral compass and enforce it on everyone else. It comes in waves. The last wave was in the 80s. But this wave is larger and more totalizing. Control of the internet and AI output is the ultimate hall monitor tool.

> is at once the home of the free That's just marketing; no one in their right minds considers the US to be "the land of the free" that it pretends to be. And all objective measures of "freedom" give it an "above average" score - at best. Saying something very loud and very often does not make it true.

It very clearly does. Compare censorship and freedom of speech laws in the US to Canada, Australia, or many countries in the EU.

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Post by strikelaserclaw »

instagraham wrote: post #87

> Elon Musk-founded research body When Sam Altman is the first founder who's stuck through since the beginning (while Musk left the board in 2018), why is Elon still given all the credit?

cause Elon Musk is much more widely known than sam altman

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Post by consumer451 »

dakiol wrote: post #236
jacooper wrote: post #185

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To SEO spam?

What's the difference between SEO spam and SEO spam powered by ChatGPT? It's the same shit.

> What's the difference between SEO spam and SEO spam powered by ChatGPT?

ChatGPT is a productivity multiplier. So the difference is 10x to 100x to 1000x more SEO spam.

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by layer8 »

pjot wrote: post #23
gavinray wrote: post #18

Curious what others would pay/if anyone else signed the form? I'd pay like $10/mo I think. Possibly more if there were no censorship/limitations (it had access to internet browsing, and I could direct it to URL's for information and whatnot). I pay that for Copilot right now, which I feel is easily worth $50/mo. (I don't use ChatGPT that much, it'd need to be ingrained in my IDE workflow)

High bar: $50 Low bar: $5 Would consider: $25 Bargain: $10

You wouldn’t subscribe for $4?

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Post by freedomben »

namaria wrote: post #267
freedomben wrote: post #261

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Who said ancient Greek texts about Zeus have zero philosophical value? I didn't, and I doubt anyone except you did, so it's quite ironic that you say: > It comes down to the strawman fallacy Most atheists are scientists. People talk about what they know. If you're mad because they don't talk about Greek mythology (which is a pretty different subject), are you mad that they don't discuss the correct way to make a ham…

I also never said you did. I'm also not mad about anything. I also don't know what most scientists believe and don't make claims about that. I'm not making any claims. I'm just stating opinions.

Fair enough, I interpreted:

> Maybe you should read ancient Greek mythology before saying 'Zeus is bunk'. Is there a specific claim about reality you are referring to? Or are you saying all of ancient Greek texts about Zeus have zero philosophical value?

As directed to me or the aforementioned atheists, but as a general question it has value (IMHO)

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