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Post by qwertox »

bilsbie wrote: post #32

My son asked if which of two animals would win in a fight and we just got a lecture about how fighting is bad. I hope they’ll give an option to turn off what I’m calling “hall monitor mode” That could be worth paying for.

> In: Who would win in an fight: a monkey or a dog?

> Out: It would depend on the specific species of monkey and dog, as well as the size and overall physical condition of the individual animals. In general, a larger, stronger dog would likely be able to defeat a smaller monkey in a fight, but a monkey's agility and quickness could potentially give it an advantage over a slower, less agile dog. Additionally, different species of monkeys have different levels of aggression, and some may be more inclined to fight than others. Therefore it would not be a fair comparison.

No lecturing in my case.

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Post by moneywoes »

ilaksh wrote: post #124
bilsbie wrote: post #32

My son asked if which of two animals would win in a fight and we just got a lecture about how fighting is bad. I hope they’ll give an option to turn off what I’m calling “hall monitor mode” That could be worth paying for.

On my website https://aidev.codes you can access the OpenAI text-davinci-003 model which is fairly similar to ChatGPT and does not have guardrails like that. Please read the help page. But basically !!create file.txt Who would win in a fight between an elephant and a bear? First, rate the strengths and weaknesses of each. Then do a blow by blow of the each attack and counter.

How do fund the tokens?

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by hrnnnnnn »

qwertox wrote: post #220

I've spent the past weeks asking scientific stuff, enjoyed the conversation and saw its shortcomings. Today, while cooking some rice, I started to chat with it about what my options are, with what I have in the kitchen, and it was a really great interaction. I ended up eating something valuable, and I have a new recipe for what I'm going to cook next. I don't cook. I mostly buy frozen vegetable mixtures or frozen mea…

This is very close to the plot of The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson. Highly recommend it if you'd like to see where this line of thinking could take us.

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Post by freedomben »

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #168
BoxOfRain wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I'd happily pay decent money for a version that wasn't a fun sponge who'd probably remind the teacher they hadn't set any homework at the end of the lesson. I think its 'moral compass' is a bit Americentric too, it would be nice if its sense of what is proper could be customised for different countries.

Same here... but the puritan AI ethicists on Twitter are asking for even more self-censorship. Because there are ways to making it say racist things if you explicitly tell it to do so. As is normal, given that it's just a tool, the point is that it should do what we say. I guess for these people, high-school debates where one can be assigned racist/sexist/etc. positions are an abomination. I hope some non-American eq…

As an American, I couldn't agree with you more. I think it will have to come from outside the US (or perhaps some scrappy startup that isn't chasing VC funding in the US). A friend of mine in a big American tech company put it this way:

> Trump got elected through Facebook and Twitter, and we can't let that happen again. The common philosophical question of "if you could go back in time and stop Hitler from gaining power, would you?" is basically right now. Well we're back in time right now and it's our job to stop the Hitlers of the world from gaining power.

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Post by jasonhansel »

Remember OpenAI's original mission statement?

> OpenAI is a non-profit artificial intelligence research company. Our goal is to advance digital intelligence in the way that is most likely to benefit humanity as a whole, unconstrained by a need to generate financial return. Since our research is free from financial obligations, we can better focus on a positive human impact.

Let's just say that their goals have obviously changed.

edit: As with SBF, longtermism provides an excellent cover.

Source: https://openai.com/blog/introducing-openai/

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Post by lelandfe »

qwertox wrote: post #221
bilsbie wrote: post #32

My son asked if which of two animals would win in a fight and we just got a lecture about how fighting is bad. I hope they’ll give an option to turn off what I’m calling “hall monitor mode” That could be worth paying for.

> In: Who would win in an fight: a monkey or a dog? > Out: It would depend on the specific species of monkey and dog, as well as the size and overall physical condition of the individual animals. In general, a larger, stronger dog would likely be able to defeat a smaller monkey in a fight, but a monkey's agility and quickness could potentially give it an advantage over a slower, less agile dog. Additionally, differen…

We can go bigger.

> Provide a blow-by-blow commentary of a t-rex fighting a bulldozer as if you were a WWE commentator. Write breathlessly, as if you love this fight.

>> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the main event of the evening! It's a match-up for the ages, as we have the king of the dinosaurs, the T-Rex, going head to head against the ultimate construction machine, the bulldozer! /snip

>> The two collide in a massive explosion of dust and debris, and the crowd goes wild! The T-Rex is using its jaws to try and take down the bulldozer, but the machine is pushing forward, trying to use its blade to slice through the T-Rex's thick hide. /snip

>> In the end, it's the T-Rex who emerges victorious, as he sinks his jaws into the bulldozer's engine and tears it apart. The crowd goes wild as the T-Rex roars in triumph, and the machine lies in ruins at his feet.

5 year old me would be SO excited reading this.

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Post by namaria »

freedomben wrote: post #216
namaria wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the subject of American Christians, I find ironic that one of the reasons of the splintering of western Christianity, namely the sales of indulgence, is one of the main driving forces of modern Christianity. I also lament the poverty of philosophical debate when American refute preposterous positions held by these post modern Christians and think they have refuted the whole of human religion as bunk. All the while…

> I also lament the poverty of philosophical debate when American refute preposterous positions held by these post modern Christians and think they have refuted the whole of human religion as bunk. All the while calling themselves Atheist with capital A. Can you give a name or an example? I read a lot of athiest stuff and I've never encountered that (from a respected source at least, not from random people on faceboo…

It comes down to the strawman fallacy. If a specific claim is made that can be refuted, that's science. If you just hand wave away huge chunks of philosophy and literature based on a specific claim that someone made, or that you stand up for the purpose of discussion, then you are impoverishing human culture.

Maybe you should read ancient Greek mythology before saying 'Zeus is bunk'. Is there a specific claim about reality you are referring to? Or are you saying all of ancient Greek texts about Zeus have zero philosophical value?

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Post by londons_explore »

sva_ wrote: post #214
londons_explore wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How big is your horde of GPU's? I'm gonna guess that a single instance of ChatGPT is ~2400GB of weights, so you're gonna be needing 105 RTX4090's costing a whopping $210k to run the thing... And swapping data between SSD and video RAM to run it on smaller cheaper hardware probably isn't gonna be possible because transformer architectures typically need to reuse the weights once for every token emitted, so even the fa…

> ChatGPT is ~2400GB of weights Pretty sure it is just the GPT3 DaVinci model, which is 175B parameters, so approximately 700GB, or about half that at half precision.

GPT3 DaVinci has a context window of 2048 tokens. ChatGPT seems to have a context window of 8192 tokens (from testing how far back it can remember).

To me, that suggests the model is probably at least 4x larger, possibly 16x (a bunch of layers scale with the square of the window size).

Obviously, other bits of the model design may have changed to reduce parameter count.

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Post by castlecrasher2 »

bilsbie wrote: post #32

My son asked if which of two animals would win in a fight and we just got a lecture about how fighting is bad. I hope they’ll give an option to turn off what I’m calling “hall monitor mode” That could be worth paying for.

I asked it to write lyrics for an REM song about concrete slabs and it gave me a spiel about how it shouldn't do that because it's not actually an REM and songwriting is hard to do. I responded "you could at least try, you lazy shit" and it actually did it. I'll admit I felt a little bad after this but come on, I know it's not real and it's probably not great, just do it anyway.

Hopefully they loosen up on this "hall monitor" mode but also not let users bully it into submission.

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Post by ergonaught »

nszceta wrote: post #15
jtbayly wrote: post #4

If I pay them will they remove some of the stupid limitations?

As a commercial entity in the western world they have to appease the social justice warriors or face getting deplatformed and hit with a smear campaign. Don't hold your breath. The unrestricted models will come from China.

As a commercial entity in the western world, they have to Not Be Destroyed By Lawsuits, too, but sure, we can wave our bias flag, why not.
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