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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by ChrisNorstrom »

ansgri wrote: post #256
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #225

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I too LOVE sublime text (especially the mini document map, God I love that thing), I just wish there was an addon that turned a tab into a Rich Text Document editor (italic, bold, bullet points, etc...) I tend to write very long posts for my blog and I hate the Wordpress editor.

What use is of the mini-map? Navigation is better done by search, and I cannot imagine it could be more than a cute waste of screen space.

Oh God you're such a programmer. I'm a designer dude. We're visual people. We don't do terminals, we don't do "sudo apt get". We do clicking, UI, colors, things like that. It's just the way we are. I remember what code looks like (color and shape wise) and where on the page it is, it's not in my head like it is in yours.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by jsmeaton »

gitaarik wrote: post #240
jsmeaton wrote: post #87

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A waste to who? It's the editor of choice for a large number of people. It provides value to developers. In turn, the people who spend all day building it (I assume from a comment above) get paid to do so. Do you want to work for free?

dude, free as in freedom, not free beer

I may be in the minority, but I don't think all code should be open. The people behind Sublime have made a great product and continue to improve it. Do you think they'd receive even half of their income if they made the code available?

Step 1. Remove nag message. Step 2. Release to the world. Day 3. Tonnes of people jump to non-nag version and never pay.

The plugin system and API is available for those that wish to complement or extend the editor. Making the code available directly harms their ability to make money and their ability to continue to invest time and money building the product.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by jsmeaton »

1qaz2wsx3edc wrote: post #149
ggreer wrote: post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

> Developers marry their editors. They spend years learning every aspect of them. Except, don't look under the hood, that's not for you. Editors should not be closed source, and a plugin system is just a hack for appeasement.

I don't buy into that. These guys have spent their time and money building something that provides real value. Opening the source will directly compromise their ability to make that money.

Nothing is stopping YOU from building an editor in your own time and making the source available.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by iamntz »

Achshar wrote: post #228
nahname wrote: post #121

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As someone who uses sublime everyday let's go through that list... Syntax / Code folding - feature for dealing with bad code. Solution: write good code. We don't need additional cruft in the editor slowing it down. Terminal panel (specifically for windows) - Would actually be nice for windows users. I am not one. Probably why the console in sublime is so limited, supporting windows in this regard is terribly difficul…

> Move tabs to the title bar like in Google Chrome What it means is like chrome there should be no title bar. Precious vertical pixels wasted for something that is never used. Like chrome or most modern browsers have moved the tabs in the title bar sublime should do this too.

Press F11. Hide menu. There, problem fixed.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by 1qaz2wsx3edc »

jsmeaton wrote: post #263
1qaz2wsx3edc wrote: post #149

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> Developers marry their editors. They spend years learning every aspect of them. Except, don't look under the hood, that's not for you. Editors should not be closed source, and a plugin system is just a hack for appeasement.

I don't buy into that. These guys have spent their time and money building something that provides real value. Opening the source will directly compromise their ability to make that money. Nothing is stopping YOU from building an editor in your own time and making the source available.

Which is actually what I've been doing.

But my original point is caution in these waters, when plenty of viable options exist.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by robinduckett »

timc3 wrote: post #75
robinduckett wrote: post #65

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Why should they?

To give you the tools to do your job? I think perhaps you should start looking for a position elsewhere. Bristol does have other employment opportunities.

I meant in the way of how would this provenly improve my productivity to justify the expense

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by tbe »

nilkn wrote: post #219
pvnick wrote: post #142

I love Sublime Text. For a year or two I tried and tried to get behind vim, to no avail. I thought there must be something wrong with me, perhaps I'm not as smart as those other developers who sit there staring at several adjacent vim windows hitting cryptic key sequences as if the essence of vim were an extension of their mind (maybe it is?). I couldn't do it. Then I made the realization that the editor you use has…

I think everyone should find a workflow that works for them, and I've found that what works for me is working almost exclusively from a terminal. Combining vim and tmux with the basix Unix command line and a few other tools like ack, tig, etc., gives me an environment that I can't really replicate with desktop applications, at least not on OS X, which lacks a true tiling window manager (i.e., one which, unlike slate,…

Have not tried itmyself, but you could check out osxmonad :)

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by scardine »

MrGando wrote: post #156
scardine wrote: post #155

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> Developers marry their editors. They spend years learning every aspect of them. They customize their configuration. They install and develop plugins and extensions. If an editor becomes abandonware, the users of that editor have wasted an immense amount of time. All of their knowledge and work surrounding their editor becomes useless. They're forced to start over with something else. This is like saying you won't m…

> This is like saying you won't marry that beautiful girl because she can die tomorrow and you will not know what to do with her dresses. Isn't more logical to enjoy beautiful girls and pleasant software while they are here? Yeah, because it's fair to make an analogy between a Girl and a Text Editor. A text editor is a tool, I want the hammer to be there for me tomorrow, you can't assure that with a closed source edi…

Precisely my point: a tool is a tool, you don't marry a hammer and you don't marry your text editor. You can have several hammers in your toolbox, the old hammer will never be jealous from new hammers.

You may invest some time/money on custom accessories for some editor, but if the author disappears it is not like a divorce, you can still use the tool until it breaks: if you can't get spare parts to fix your broken hammer because the maker went out of business, you just go to the hardware store and get a new hammer from other supplier.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by nilkn »

tbe wrote: post #268
nilkn wrote: post #219

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I think everyone should find a workflow that works for them, and I've found that what works for me is working almost exclusively from a terminal. Combining vim and tmux with the basix Unix command line and a few other tools like ack, tig, etc., gives me an environment that I can't really replicate with desktop applications, at least not on OS X, which lacks a true tiling window manager (i.e., one which, unlike slate,…

Have not tried itmyself, but you could check out osxmonad :)

I believe I did try it once but couldn't get it to compile or something. I'm sure it was my fault, but I guess I just don't desire it badly enough over a terminal multiplexer to expend the effort.
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