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One other Twitter comments reveals that they probably just asked an AI to copy Papermark. Evidenced by AI comments saying the page was aligned to the "reference" https://xcancel.com/ffumarola/status/2070479755892371713#m
The era of chinese level competition is here.
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We should thank companies for warning us during the interview process that they are so separated from reality (especially in the AI era) If AI can’t make them recognize a work life balance has value then it’s easy to see they don’t believe the “force multiplier” BS they are peddling
They are worth 3 billion after two years so it seems like they are doing all right with their strategy although I'm old now and don't want to do that
Their response: > The team that made dataroom has stated that they did not use any of papermark’s code and that dataroom was made from scratch with inspiration from existing document sharing softwares, and that this post’s allegations of us stealing code are false. [...] The screenshots clearly show they copied whole pages verbatim, both design and texts. The founder, Nico Laqua, basically responding with "we didn't…
I hope YC does the right thing here and pull funding of these ass wipes.
One other Twitter comments reveals that they probably just asked an AI to copy Papermark. Evidenced by AI comments saying the page was aligned to the "reference" https://xcancel.com/ffumarola/status/2070479755892371713#m
Unreal. I had to go back to the original Tweet to confirm that screenshot wasn’t faked. The comment clearly says “Mirror’s the reference design’s” I don’t know how they could try to spin that as anything other than having an LLM launder someone’s code as a “reference design” Even if they try to argue that the “reference design” was Figma, the identical copy means they had to have copied Papermark into the reference d…
I hope YC does the right thing here and pull funding of these ass wipes.
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> It would be a clear cut rule, and extreme "shape rotator" types... It had to look that slang up: https://roonscape.ai/p/a-song-of-shapes-and-words . > ...often have trouble with the fuzziness of things like law. In reality, copyright infringement is often more like the porn test, you know it when you see it. I'd say it's more like the fuzziness defeats most of the software-style "exploits" those types gravitate tow…
A very clear example of this is the 'Sovereign Citizen', who have bizarre beliefs around how to interact with courts. As far as I understand it, there are some 'cheat codes' people believe (incorrectly) are effective in literally getting you out of jail free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement > Another common belief among sovereign citizens is that they can opt out of the purported contract, ma…
They don't want to deal with it. If someone has one of those SovCit license plates, you know pulling them over is guaranteed to result in frustrating verbal sparring match, which may result in the cop giving up (which is then shared as evidence for the SovCit movement's effectiveness!), or may escalate to a physical altercation.
Whether or not the SovCit practitioners understand that's what's happening is anyone's guess.
The X link has screenshots where the two products have lots of identical pages. Is that IPable? Honestly don't know since I seem to use a lot of products that look like other products (LibreOffice, etc). But the pages for obscure things looking identical is kind of sus.
Similarly, trade dress and trademarks are related but different, and in USA most Trademarks™ are not Registered® (although to get ® you generally use ™ along the way), and most trade dress is not either.
See also:
- clean room design: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean-room_design
- trade dress: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_dress
Amusingly, the packaging of a dress is trade dress, but the dress design itself isn't protected.
Posted 7:52 am
https://x.com/i/status/2070158170937581951
Ahhh, that explains now why working 7 days a week is necessary for this Manhattan-project-level startup, he's not ‘Grindmaxxing’ by waking up with the 5 AM club every day!
(Context for folks not terminally online: https://x.com/i/status/2061139112426623054)
Can someone give a bit more of context on this thread? I have no idea who Nico is nor what Papermark is or does. As an aside thought not related to the thread: Is it my perception or people are getting more used to not only vibe code things from existing solutions/projects but also "steal" open source code and do whatever the heck they want without complying morally/ethically/legally to the whole premise of open sour…
Add to that the fact that anyone can simply do what they want with the bits on their computer, and sharing anything over the internet means giving them a copy of those bits, the technical barriers are gone too.
This isn't a value judgement just an observation.