How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized • Hacker News Board

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by konmok » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:48 PM UTC

machina_ex_deus wrote: post #253

dang wrote: post #215

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> [Palestinians] will raid and murder, rape and destroy > those savages Wtf? I already responded to a later comment of yours here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45454043 , but this rhetoric is unacceptable on HN and if you continue to post like this we will ban you—the same way we ban accounts that post like this about other groups. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and st…

My parent comment said :"the state of Israel has a policy of systematic rape, torture, mass incarceration, murder, and dehumanization of Palestinians at an industrial scale that's been in place for decades now." How is that allowed while what I said isn't? My parent comment literally says the same thing. Your moderation is one sided. I didn't say anything that wasn't claimed by the other side. I see far worse slurs a…

Governments are hierarchical, and they can (and should) be held responsible for their actions. The population of Palestine, taken as a whole, is not. If you had said "the Hamas state is savage and murderous" that wouldn't have bothered me very much, but instead you generalized each individual Palestinian as a savage. I think @dang's moderation makes perfect sense here.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by lejalv » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:50 PM UTC

starik36 wrote: post #165

moogly wrote: post #129

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> a peace deal that ends all this Netanyahu, Smotrich and Ben-Gvir do not want this peace deal either. There is 0 chance it would be honored.

Netanyahu signed on. I am asking why Hamas won't accept it.

That's not true, if you’re referring to the Trump plan, as he contradicted one of the main points upon return to Israel. He selectively backed some part of it, which is not really “signing” on the same plan that was offered to other parties.

Also, what value has Netanyahu’s word? I mean, after blowing up a truce unilaterally, after killing negotiators, after all the corruption reckoning that is coming to him if/when out of office...

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by bobbylarrybobby » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:50 PM UTC

FridayoLeary wrote: post #242

mothballed wrote: post #229

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Same for water. I've heard they could electrolyze drinking water into hydrogen and oxygen. Then they could explode the hydrogen using the oxygen as an oxidizer. Only solution is to cut off all wells and water supplies.

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Yeah, support from Israel...

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by jameshilliard » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:50 PM UTC

tsimionescu wrote: post #201

jameshilliard wrote: post #157

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> Israelis like to say that they hate Netanyahu, but in reality, majority of Israeli Jews fully align with his policies towards Palestinians, and multiple polls confirm this. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-05/ty-article/.p... There tends to be a lot more nuance[0] when it comes to polling results like these, the reality is that opinions amongst Israelis vary quite a lot. There are also a lot of problems…

This equivocation is absurd. Literally every international aid organization is saying the same thing - and even a few Israeli ones are now recognizing the genocide in Gaza. The fact that Israel, far from sending "large amounts of aid", has, in fact, systematically blocked aid to Gaza was recognized even by the US government. The US even resorted to building a pier to send their own aid in. Edit: looking at the claims…

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by abrenuntio » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:50 PM UTC

ciconia wrote: post #236

justin66 wrote: post #123

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People sometimes forget how bitterly divided Israel was before October 7th, with hundreds of thousands of people protesting in the streets. The war put some of the infighting on hold for a while, but all the former problems still exist, and the stakes are higher.

The division is not about the starvation of Gaza. All Zionist parties in the Israeli parliament support the military campaign in Gaza. Apart from some lip-service from left-wing leaders, to my knowledge no Jewish leader has spoken against the starvation. Israeli media (except for Haaretz) have largely denied that there is a famine, and have called it a "propaganda campaign" by the Hamas.

Some Orthodox Jews are very active against it, on very sound religious grounds.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by lejalv » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:51 PM UTC

starik36 wrote: post #167

duxup wrote: post #136

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Has there been a peace deal that ends any of this for long?

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That is, technically, at odds with the truth, and morally, a transparent attempt at misinformation, please read the comments above you, or use “the internet”.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by dang » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:55 PM UTC

machina_ex_deus wrote: post #253

dang wrote: post #215

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> [Palestinians] will raid and murder, rape and destroy > those savages Wtf? I already responded to a later comment of yours here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45454043 , but this rhetoric is unacceptable on HN and if you continue to post like this we will ban you—the same way we ban accounts that post like this about other groups. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and st…

My parent comment said :"the state of Israel has a policy of systematic rape, torture, mass incarceration, murder, and dehumanization of Palestinians at an industrial scale that's been in place for decades now." How is that allowed while what I said isn't? My parent comment literally says the same thing. Your moderation is one sided. I didn't say anything that wasn't claimed by the other side. I see far worse slurs a…

There's a big difference between making such a statement about a government vs. about an entire population. That ought to be obvious.

> I see far worse slurs about Israel and Jews here which remain unmoderated

There are many comments criticizing Israel (and many defending Israel), but comments slurring Jewish people in general are another matter and we crack down just as hard on those (see e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45377645).

We don't see every post on HN, but I don't believe there are many such comments going unmoderated, because readers are usually pretty quick to point them out to us. If you see a comment that should have been moderated but hasn't been (and certainly if you see one that is slurring an entire population), you can help by flagging it and emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com.

Also, the outright antisemitic comments I see are mostly by a small number of serial trolls, by which I mean troll accounts in a sequence n, n+1, n+2, ... where they create n+k+1 after we ban n+k. That tells me that these are mostly, if not entirely, fringe participants.

Edit: as a spot check, I just skimmed through all (live) comments from the last week that contain the word 'Jews'. I didn't see any slurs in there, and most seem to be from people defending Israel, arguing against antisemitism and so on.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by VerminOctopus1 » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:59 PM UTC

FridayoLeary wrote: post #242

mothballed wrote: post #229

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Same for water. I've heard they could electrolyze drinking water into hydrogen and oxygen. Then they could explode the hydrogen using the oxygen as an oxidizer. Only solution is to cut off all wells and water supplies.

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by lejalv » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 8:01 PM UTC

impomura wrote: post #9

iberator wrote: post #2

Reminder: Only right wing supporters of Iaraeli Likud party actually support genocide going on. Literally half of Israeli citizens hate Likud and Natanyahu. ps. Interesting trivia: Mahmoud Abbas (President of the Palestinian West Bank) and FATAH militia also are against Hamas. They always have been: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah%E2%80%93Hamas_conflict Nothing is black or white.

majority of Israeli keep supporting IDF policies, shame on them

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 8:03 PM UTC

flyinglizard wrote: post #251

C6JEsQeQa5fCjE wrote: post #110

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Because it doesn't move the situation any closer to liberation of their people and their homeland. They have been willing to constantly fight, and constantly keep getting killed by an enemy with overwhelming advantages, for their cause for two years now. Why would you assume that being able to escape with their lives is suddenly more important to them?

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