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How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by tsimionescu »

jameshilliard wrote: post #157
kombine wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a popular idea in the Israeli propaganda. Israelis like to say that they hate Netanyahu, but in reality, majority of Israeli Jews fully align with his policies towards Palestinians, and multiple polls confirm this. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-05/ty-article/.p...

> Israelis like to say that they hate Netanyahu, but in reality, majority of Israeli Jews fully align with his policies towards Palestinians, and multiple polls confirm this. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-05/ty-article/.p... There tends to be a lot more nuance[0] when it comes to polling results like these, the reality is that opinions amongst Israelis vary quite a lot. There are also a lot of problems…

This equivocation is absurd. Literally every international aid organization is saying the same thing - and even a few Israeli ones are now recognizing the genocide in Gaza. The fact that Israel, far from sending "large amounts of aid", has, in fact, systematically blocked aid to Gaza was recognized even by the US government. The US even resorted to building a pier to send their own aid in.

Edit: looking at the claims more specifically, this one is particularly easy to debunk:

> even publish comic books with some rather overt antisemitic trope

The supposed "antisemitic trope" is an image of a person holding a cracked globe. The blog post implies that this is supposed to be an image representing the antisemitic "masters of the world" trope. In fact, the image represents the UN rapporteur himself looking at how the lack of international reaction to Israel's crimes has left a crack in the UN-led rules-based world order.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by slowturtle »

starik36 wrote: post #97

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Probably because Israel violated the ceasefire earlier this year (that was a sham from the beginning) that lasted from January to March. The first phase of the ceasefire saw an exchange of hostages, but then the Israelis refused to move on to the second phase and broke the ceasefire by bombing Gaza in the middle of the night, killing over 400 Palestinians in one day, including over 200 children. [0]

Not to mention the fact that Israel just killed a top Hamas negotiator in Doha, Qatar only a few weeks ago. [1] How can you negotiate with someone who just killed your negotiator?

[0] https://apnews.com/live/latest-updates-israel-launches-new-w...

[1] https://apnews.com/article/qatar-explosion-doha-e319dd51b170...

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by mk89 »

justin66 wrote: post #123
Animats wrote: post #115

“Israel has built the most efficient starvation machine you can imagine.” There's political opposition to this within Israel. Here's what happened to an elected member of the Knesset who spoke out against the cruelty in Gaza.[1] He was forcibly removed from the podium of the Knesset. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzDxV7jnAos

People sometimes forget how bitterly divided Israel was before October 7th, with hundreds of thousands of people protesting in the streets. The war put some of the infighting on hold for a while, but all the former problems still exist, and the stakes are higher.

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Post by rowanseymour »

boxed wrote: post #150
rowanseymour wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Both the definition and charge of ethnic cleansing is often disputed, with some researchers including and others excluding coercive assimilation or mass killings as a means of depopulating an area of a particular group, or calling it a euphemism for genocide or cultural genocide." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

Notice the lack of "moving" in your quote. I'm not saying the moving isn't wrong, but it's a LONG way from gas chambers.

"moving people" is a horrific way to obscure what is happening in Gaza today

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by bccdee »

RS-232 wrote: post #194

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I'll bite the bullet and respond to this.

Those claims have been investigated and were found to be insubstantial. Given that the government of Israel is extraordinarily biased in this matter and would never, under any circumstances, admit to deliberately starving civilians, we can safely disregard whatever excuses they put forth in the absence of external corroboration.

> Sam Rose, the acting director of affairs for the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) in Gaza, says Israel – which has near-total jurisdiction over what goods enter and exit Gaza – has controlled “to the calorie” the volume, type and overall flow of food into the enclave. “The system is designed not to function smoothly,” he said.

> Last October, Israel’s government banned UNRWA from operating in areas under its control, a prohibition that went into effect in January, having accused the agency of failing to stop Hamas’ alleged theft of aid. An internal US government review found no evidence of widespread theft by Hamas of US-funded humanitarian aid in Gaza.

Additionally:

> since when did negotiating with terrorists like Hamas even become acceptable

When people say they "don't negotiate with terrorists," what they mean is that they will not make concessions in response to terroristic threats. This idea has no relevance in this situation.

> Why has the rest of the Arab world not volunteered to receive Palestinian refugees?

You're describing forced displacement, which is a component of genocide. The reason why the Arab world has not collaborated with Israel's efforts to commit genocide in Gaza should be self-explanatory.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by olelele »

konmok wrote: post #158
machina_ex_deus wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You sound almost exactly like Trump talking about Mexicans. When you dismiss an entire people as murderers, rapists, and savages, something's gone wrong with how you understand the world. I'm sure that many many Palestinians hate Jews, but that shouldn't be a surprise when Palestinians have been brutally oppressed for a century for the sake of creating a Jewish state. This is the natural consequence of oppression, an…

As if rolling out the tanks, building a wall and using the population for low skill low wage workers is giving away anything. Gaza is under a blockade since 2006.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by dang »

machina_ex_deus wrote: post #203
starik36 wrote: post #97

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> They do not value their own lives [...] If the Palestinians valued their own lives

You can't post slurs like this to HN, no matter which people you have a problem with. No more of this, please, regardless of how divisive the topic and how justified the strong feelings about it are.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

(Edit: yes, we moderate HN the same way regardless of which population is being slurred)

Edit 2: please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45454073 also. You went even further over the line in that case.

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