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How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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For reference: While the gas chambers were are the prominent way of death during the Holocaust, the majority of victims died of starvation. Starvation death looks like succumbing to a random sickness (the body is just too weak for a functional immune response), and thus saves the perpetrator from the usual psychological consequences of direct murder. This methodology was agreed on during the Wannsee conference in 194…

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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> why is Hamas refusing a peace deal They're psychotic idiots. > lets them escape with their lives On the other hand: how idiotic would they have to be to believe the Israelis will let them escape with their lives, given all the evidence to the contrary?

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would reporting from the NYT citing Israeli military officials saying that this didn't happen on any notable scale help convince people? No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un...

The UN's own data ( https://app.un2720.org/tracking ) shows 86,531 pallets were intercepted, while only 26,772 pallets arrived at their intended destination. We don't know many of the interceptions Hamas was behind, but that isn't really important.

Is 0 better than 26,772 pallets?

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Because it doesn't move the situation any closer to liberation of their people and their homeland. They have been willing to constantly fight, and constantly keep getting killed by an enemy with overwhelming advantages, for their cause for two years now. Why would you assume that being able to escape with their lives is suddenly more important to them?

> doesn't move the situation any closer to liberation of their people and their homeland.

From Hamas?

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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For those out of the loop the actions of the Israeli gov. are not some fringe overreaction. This is what the people want. by their own admission, 48% of Israeli Jews want Palestinians to be ethnically cleansed which would constitute a genocidal act, while 79% believe they should get preferential treatment over Arabs. [0] Both Israeli Arabs & Palestinian Arabs. This is not some, 'oh no! it just happened.' Everyone who…

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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The party refusing any kind of deal are Israel since their goal is annihilation of Palestinians. Hamas were ready from day one for a deal, their goal (contrary to israeli narrative of course) was to negotiate prisoner exchange for the 1000s of Palesitnian prisoners held by israel (including children). This is still their goal along with ceasefire and complete withdrawal from Gaza.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You can make a good argument that a state forcefully resettling ethnicities is a form of genocide (the Nazis did that , too, e.g. with german speaking northern Italian minorities). But comparing that with the holocaust is just disrespectful hyperbole.

A huge part of the Holocaust was the forced relocation of Jewish people* to concentration camps, which would have been (rightly) remembered as an inexcusable horror even if the killings in said camps hadn't been as extensive and inhuman.

* and Roma, and Armenians, and others - but that's less salient here.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Because it doesn't move the situation any closer to liberation of their people and their homeland. They have been willing to constantly fight, and constantly keep getting killed by an enemy with overwhelming advantages, for their cause for two years now. Why would you assume that being able to escape with their lives is suddenly more important to them?

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