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Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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This is what really makes me sceptical of these tools. I've tried Claude Code and it does save some time even if I find the process boring and unappealing. But as much as I hate typing, my keyboard is mine and isn't just going to disappear one day, have its price hiked or refuse to work after 1000 lines. I would hate to get used to these tools then find I don't have them any more. I'm all for cutting down on typing b…

Now say it about electricity from the wall. Just because you might not be able to use it next week doesn’t mean the productivity gains today aren’t real.

I maintain the ability to walk even though I could use an electric mobility scooter everywhere.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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> clean code is not the true goal Its not, but it does matter. LLMs, being next word guessers, perform differently with different inputs. Its not hard to imagine a feedback loop of bad code generating worse code and good code generating more good code. My ability to get good responses from LLMs has been tied to me writing better code, docstrings, and using autoformatters.

I don't think that feedback loop is really a loop because code that doesn't actually do its job doesn't grow in popularity for long. We already have a great source of selection pressure to take care of shitty products that don't function: users and their $.

There is nothing about LLMs that make them bias towards "better" code. LLMs are every bit as good at making low effort reddit posts and writing essays for Harper's Magazine. In fact, there's a lot more shit reddit posts (and horrible student assignment github repos) than there are Harper's Magazine articles.

The only thing standing between your LLM and bad code is the quality of the prompt (including context and the hiddem OEM prompt).

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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> They're not selling them I have a receipt of sale that says otherwise.

Oh, you beautiful summer child. They are losing money on you . Do you think they are doing that out of the goodness of your heart? They are luring you in, making you dependent on them at a net loss while the VC money are lasting. When you are totally hooked and they are fully out of money, that's when you'd realize the long con you've been dragged into. At this very moment, that they are tightening the usage limits t…

I am buying from willing sellers at the current fair market price. The belief that there will be "one true king" in this race has been incepted by VCs and hype men, and is misguided at best and dangerous at worst.

Like many of the companies that have gone before them, if / when the value proposition is gone, and I get less than 10x the amount I spend, I will be gone.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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> One user, who asked not to be identified, said it has been impossible to advance his project since the usage limits came into effect. Vibe limit reached. Gotta start doing some thinking.

Who would have though including a hard depedency on third part service with unclear long term availability would be a problem! Paid compilers and remotely acessible mainframes all over again - people apparently never learn.

> people apparently never learn

They don't, because ironically enough human meatbags all need to be trained from scratch, unlike LLMs which don't die every 80 years or so.

I doubt even 10% of the devs now were conscious when "paid compilers and remotely accessible mainframes" still existed.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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"You are an expert software engineer Your key objective is to fix a bug in the XYAZ class. Use a team of experts as sub-agents to complete the analysis, debugging and triage work for you. Delegate to them, you are the manager and orchestrator of this work. As you delegate work, review and approve/reject their work as needed. Continue to refine until you are confident you have found a simple and robust fix"

Wow! I will try that. Really cool. Never tried the mythical sub-agent feature, not sure if it was really a thing due to the sparse docs. The "You are an expert software engineer" really helps? Probably good idea to mention "simple" because Claude sometimes settles for an overengineered solution.

> The "You are an expert software engineer" really helps?

Anecdata, but it weirdly helped me. Seemed BS for me until I tried.

Maybe because good code is contextual? Sample codes to explain concepts may be simpler than a production ready code. The model may have the capability to do both but can't properly disguished the correct thing to do.

I don't know.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Wow! I will try that. Really cool. Never tried the mythical sub-agent feature, not sure if it was really a thing due to the sparse docs. The "You are an expert software engineer" really helps? Probably good idea to mention "simple" because Claude sometimes settles for an overengineered solution.

> The "You are an expert software engineer" really helps? Anecdata, but it weirdly helped me. Seemed BS for me until I tried. Maybe because good code is contextual? Sample codes to explain concepts may be simpler than a production ready code. The model may have the capability to do both but can't properly disguished the correct thing to do. I don't know.

Maybe it's not the "expert", but "software engineer" part that works? Essentially it's given a role. This constrains it a bit; e.g. it's not going to question the overall plan. Maybe this helps it take a subordinate position rather than an advisor or teacher. Which may help when there is a clear objective with clear boundaries laid out? Anyway, I will try myself and simply observe it if makes a difference.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Who said it was writing code for an hour? Solving complex problems by problem solving, writing SQL, querying data, analyzing data. formulating plans. What do you do for hours? If all you're thinking about is code output, you're thinking too small.

You should really read this. https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4 It was given a task and it solved a problem by operating for 7 hours straight.

With 7 hour tasks it might become worthwhile to invest in a RAM-based local solution with DeepSeek Coder? I've heard that you can run it with 300-700GB. With such long tasks, Claude may run out of usage, right? So queueing it up on a local server may make sense? Always looking for an excuse to do things in-house, but it has to make sense :)

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Even if Moore's law was still in effect and the computer resources required stayed the same and compute stayed as efficient per watt (neither is true), it would just halve compute costs every 18 months. You're able to read about people hitting $4000 costs/month on the $200 plan upthread. That's 8 years until it's cost effective. Are they really ready to burn money for 8 years?

Uber operated at a loss for 9 years. They're now a profitable, market-winning business. Amazon operated at a loss for 9 years, and barely turned a profit for over a decade longer than that. They're now one of the greatest businesses of all time. Spotify operated at a loss for 17 years until becoming profitable. Tesla operated at a loss for 17 years before turning a profit. Palantir operated at a loss for 20 years bef…

Those decades of 0 interest rate is now gone though. And if only 1 competitor will survive well like in all above sectors then sure it might feel fine now but almost a trillion dollars of private investment is waiting to sink.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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post #258

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Oh, you beautiful summer child. They are losing money on you . Do you think they are doing that out of the goodness of your heart? They are luring you in, making you dependent on them at a net loss while the VC money are lasting. When you are totally hooked and they are fully out of money, that's when you'd realize the long con you've been dragged into. At this very moment, that they are tightening the usage limits t…

I am buying from willing sellers at the current fair market price. The belief that there will be "one true king" in this race has been incepted by VCs and hype men, and is misguided at best and dangerous at worst. Like many of the companies that have gone before them, if / when the value proposition is gone, and I get less than 10x the amount I spend, I will be gone.

It's just a rumor atm but Claude weekly limits seem to be coming:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeCode/comments/1ma3wm6/weekly_...

> Like many of the companies that have gone before them, if / when the value proposition is gone, and I get less than 10x the amount I spend, I will be gone.

Seems you'd soon be going. Well it was fun while it lasted (all 3 months of it).

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