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Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by nikisweeting »

mrits wrote: post #64
thr0waway001 wrote: post #24

> One user, who asked not to be identified, said it has been impossible to advance his project since the usage limits came into effect. Vibe limit reached. Gotta start doing some thinking.

I honestly feel sorry for these vibe coders. I'm loving AI in a similar way that I loved google or IDE magic. This seems like a far worst version of those developers that tried to build an entire app with Eclipse or Visual Studio GUI drag and drop from the late 90s

Hundreds of billions of dollars have changed hands through shitty drag-and-drop UIs, wordpress ecommerce plugins, and dreamweaver sites, lets not forget the code is there to serve a business purpose at the end of the day. Code quality is an implementation detail that may matter less over time as rewrites get easier. I love me some beatiful hand-written clean code, but clean code is not the true goal.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by ImaCake »

nikisweeting wrote: post #121
mrits wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly feel sorry for these vibe coders. I'm loving AI in a similar way that I loved google or IDE magic. This seems like a far worst version of those developers that tried to build an entire app with Eclipse or Visual Studio GUI drag and drop from the late 90s

Hundreds of billions of dollars have changed hands through shitty drag-and-drop UIs, wordpress ecommerce plugins, and dreamweaver sites, lets not forget the code is there to serve a business purpose at the end of the day. Code quality is an implementation detail that may matter less over time as rewrites get easier. I love me some beatiful hand-written clean code, but clean code is not the true goal.

> clean code is not the true goal

Its not, but it does matter. LLMs, being next word guessers, perform differently with different inputs. Its not hard to imagine a feedback loop of bad code generating worse code and good code generating more good code.

My ability to get good responses from LLMs has been tied to me writing better code, docstrings, and using autoformatters.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by esafak »

ChadMoran wrote: post #105
ChadMoran wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who said it was writing code for an hour? Solving complex problems by problem solving, writing SQL, querying data, analyzing data. formulating plans. What do you do for hours? If all you're thinking about is code output, you're thinking too small.

You should really read this. https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4 It was given a task and it solved a problem by operating for 7 hours straight.

I have not tested Claude Code but that's impressive because other agents get stuck long before that.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by osn9363739 »

klik99 wrote: post #84
pembrook wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uber operated at a loss for 9 years. They're now a profitable, market-winning business. Amazon operated at a loss for 9 years, and barely turned a profit for over a decade longer than that. They're now one of the greatest businesses of all time. Spotify operated at a loss for 17 years until becoming profitable. Tesla operated at a loss for 17 years before turning a profit. Palantir operated at a loss for 20 years bef…

Those aren’t good comparisons. Uber operated at a loss to destroy competition and raised prices after they did that. Amazon (the retailer) did the same and leveraged their position to enter new more lucrative markets. Dunno about Spotify, but Tesla and palantir both secured lucrative contracts and subsidies. Anthropic is against companies with deeper pockets and can’t spend to destroy competition, their current busin…

Could this just be survivorship bias? How many companies burned money until they died? This isn't some hot take. I'm kinda interested. Surely more companies failed with this model than survived.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by ivape »

m4rtink wrote: post #82
thr0waway001 wrote: post #24

> One user, who asked not to be identified, said it has been impossible to advance his project since the usage limits came into effect. Vibe limit reached. Gotta start doing some thinking.

Who would have though including a hard depedency on third part service with unclear long term availability would be a problem! Paid compilers and remotely acessible mainframes all over again - people apparently never learn.

Everyone that successfully avoided social media for the last decade escaped with their mental health. Everyone that carefully moderates their ai intake (e.g don’t depend on Claude Code) will also escape with their skills over the next decade, others will become AI fiends, just the like social media fiends. Just knowing tech like the internet and ai can fuck your whole brain up is enough to be ahead of the curve. If you didn’t learn the lesson from the uptake of video games, cellphones, tv, streaming (the list is endless), then you’re not paying attention.

The destruction of spelling didn’t feel like doomsday to us. In fact, I think most people treated the utter annihilation of that skill as a joke. “No one knows how to spell anymore” - haha, funny, isn’t technology cute? Not really. We’ve gone up an order of magnitude, and not paying attention to how programming is on the chopping block is going to screw a lot of people out of that skill.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by osn9363739 »

ChadMoran wrote: post #59
Aurornis wrote: post #4

I played with Claude Code using the basic $20/month plan for a toy side project. I couldn't believe how many requests I could get in. I wasn't using this full-time for an entire workweek, but I thought for sure I'd be running into the $20/month limits quickly. Yet I never did. To be fair, I spent a lot of time cleaning up after the AI and manually coding things it couldn't figure out. It still seemed like an incredib…

If you aren't hitting the limits you aren't writing great prompts. I can write a prompt and have it go off and work for about an hour and hit the limit. You can have it launch sub-agents, parallelize work and autonomously operate for long periods of time. Think beyond just saying "do this one thing".

Are there some good examples/wiki/knowledge base on how to do this? I'll read 2 competing theories on the same day so I'm kinda confused.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by layoric »

pembrook wrote: post #49

The funny thing is Claude 4.0 isn't even that 'smart' from a raw intelligence perspective compared to the other flagship models. They've just done the work to tailor it specifically for proper tool using during coding. Once other models catch up, they will not be able to be so stingy on limits. Google has the advantage here given they're running on their own silicon; can optimize for it; and have nearly unlimited cas…

Claude is decent for sure, but if you are using these models for 'smarts', that is a whole separate problem. I also think honestly people are sleeping on Mistral's medium 3 and devstral medium. I know it isn't 'smart' either (none of them are), but for mundane tasks need valid code output, it is extremely good for the price.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by anonzzzies »

That must somehow be illegal, at least in the consumer space. I have noticed quicker degrade to sonnet, but don't often hit limits ($200 plan). Seems none of these guys can afford loyalty, so I will be skipping between 'tool of the month' instead of sticking with one. New companies with new VC money are good for a few months and then degrade, so it's not hard to do.
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