OpenAI O3-Mini

Post by brookst » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 8:28 PM UTC

Euphorbium wrote: post #213

sho_hn wrote: post #12

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I think OpenAI really needs to rethink its product naming, especially now that they have a portfolio where there's no such clear hierarchy, but they have a place along different axis (speed, cost, reasoning, capabilities, etc). Your summary attempt e.g. also misses o3-mini vs o3-mini-high. Lots of trade-ofs.

They can still do models o3o, oo3 and 3oo. Mini-o3o-high, not to be confused with mini-O3o-high (the first o is capital).

Post by cgriswald » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 8:28 PM UTC

jackbrookes wrote: post #253

jen729w wrote: post #211

> Testers preferred o3-mini's responses to o1-mini 56% of the time I hope by this they don't mean me, when I'm asked 'which of these two responses do you prefer'. They're both 2,000 words, and I asked a question because I have something to do. I'm not reading them both ; I'm usually just selecting the one that answered first. That prompt is pointless. Perhaps as evidenced by the essentially 50% response rate: it's a…

Yes I'd bet most users just 50/50 it, which actually makes it more remarkable that there was a 56% selection rate

Post by johnneville » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 8:28 PM UTC

jen729w wrote: post #211

> Testers preferred o3-mini's responses to o1-mini 56% of the time I hope by this they don't mean me, when I'm asked 'which of these two responses do you prefer'. They're both 2,000 words, and I asked a question because I have something to do. I'm not reading them both ; I'm usually just selecting the one that answered first. That prompt is pointless. Perhaps as evidenced by the essentially 50% response rate: it's a…

Post by sumedh » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 8:29 PM UTC

lesuorac wrote: post #176

echelon wrote: post #20

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There's no moat, and they have to work even harder. Competition is good.

I really don't think this is true. OpenAI has no moat because they have nothing unique; they're using mostly other people's (like Transformers) architectures and other companies hardware. Their value-prop (moat) is that they've burnt more money than everybody else. That moat is trivially circumvented by lighting a larger pile of money and less trivially by lighting the pile more efficently. OpenAI isn't the only comp…

Post by sumedh » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 8:31 PM UTC

AISnakeOil wrote: post #240

The naming convention is so messed up. o1, o3-mini (no o2, no o3???)