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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by Ninjinka » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 7:13 PM UTC

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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by sho_hn » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 7:13 PM UTC

sss111 wrote: post #3

So far, it seems like this is the hierarchy o1 > GPT-4o > o3-mini > o1-mini > GPT-4o-mini o3 mini system card: https://cdn.openai.com/o3-mini-system-card.pdf

I think OpenAI really needs to rethink its product naming, especially now that they have a portfolio where there's no such clear hierarchy, but they have a place along different axis (speed, cost, reasoning, capabilities, etc).

Your summary attempt e.g. also misses o3-mini vs o3-mini-high. Lots of trade-ofs.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by sss111 » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 7:13 PM UTC

brcmthrowaway wrote: post #2

Gamechanger?

This time, it is a save-face release, especially because Azure, AWS, and OpenRouter have started offering DeepSeek

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by cjbarber » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 7:13 PM UTC

The interesting question to me is how far these reasoning models can be scaled. With another 12 months of compute scaling (for synthetic data generation and RL) how good will these models be at coding? I talked with Finbarr Timbers (ex-DeepMind) yesterday about this and his take is that we'll hit diminishing returns – not because we can't make models more powerful, but because we're approaching diminishing returns in areas that matter to users and that AI models may be nearing a plateau where capability gains matter less than UX.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by BoredPositron » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 7:13 PM UTC

brcmthrowaway wrote: post #2

Gamechanger?

Is it AGI yet?

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by xyzzy9563 » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 7:14 PM UTC

What is the comparison of this versus DeepSeek in terms of good results and cost?

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by airstrike » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 7:14 PM UTC

forrestthewoods wrote: post #7

sss111 wrote: post #3

So far, it seems like this is the hierarchy o1 > GPT-4o > o3-mini > o1-mini > GPT-4o-mini o3 mini system card: https://cdn.openai.com/o3-mini-system-card.pdf

OpenAI needs a new branding scheme.

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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by dang » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 7:15 PM UTC

vincentpants wrote: post #5

Wow, it got to the top of the front page so fast! Weird!

I took a quick look at the data and FWIW the votes look legit to me, if that's what you were wondering.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by Qwuke » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 7:15 PM UTC

vincentpants wrote: post #5

Wow, it got to the top of the front page so fast! Weird!

It did get 29 points in 3 minutes, which seems like a lot even for a fan favorite, but is also consistent with previous OpenAI announcements here.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by echelon » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 7:15 PM UTC

pookieinc wrote: post #8

Can't wait to try this. What's amazing to me is that when this was revealed just one short month ago, the AI landscape looked very different than it does today with more AI companies jumping into the fray with very compelling models. I wonder how the AI shift has affected this release internally, future releases and their mindset moving forward... How does the efficiency change, the scope of their models, etc.

There's no moat, and they have to work even harder.

Competition is good.