The Coming Meltdown In College Education & Why The Economy Won’t Get Better Soon

Post by overgryphon » Mon, May 14, 2012, 5:31 PM UTC

cantankerous wrote: post #36

ntkachov wrote: post #17

The other end of the problem is that kid's aren't even trying to flip their degree. Most kids consider college and experience not an investment. You're kid is the worst investor on the planet. Because instead of majoring in Bioengineering they are majoring in psychology. And If they are majoring in psychology they aren't out to get the best damn research positions over the summer and publish papers, they are out work…

This is completely what's wrong with the system. Eventually everybody needs to work for money. That's not to say you can't go to University to better yourself and learn something that inspires you. Eventually, though, you have to eat and pay for creature comforts. If college has a huge sticker price, what's paying the bill? If not college, something else has to. Everybody who goes to school needs to make sure that th…

Post by overgryphon » Mon, May 14, 2012, 5:37 PM UTC

toemetoch wrote: post #144

grannyg00se wrote: post #51

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If that's all your resume says, then you're probably right. But there should be something on there that indicates that you can do the job otherwise you wasted your time applying. The point is that education says nothing about being able to do the job in many cases. If you are applying for an engineering position and you have MIT on your resume, that is certainly going to imply that you very likely have what it takes.…

The point is that education says nothing about being able to do the job in many cases. I work with students for development projects. We don't get to pick them, they pick the projects we propose. Here's a question that tells us in seconds whether we're going to have a tough project with a lot of pussyfooting or one that'll go mad with ideas: Do you have tech-related hobbies? Most barely have a few hobbies but some ar…

Post by ondrae » Mon, May 14, 2012, 5:47 PM UTC

yashchandra wrote: post #237

wtvanhest wrote: post #232

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There are tons of undergrad programs that are less than $10k per year. Big state schools which will give you all the social experiences you need and some of the learning. No HR department can interview people without a degree when there are so many people with degrees. A degree doesn't get you in the door, but is a minimum standard for just about any job. It is too bad school is too expensive, but it doesn't matter.

"It is too bad school is too expensive, but it doesn't matter." It does matter. The schools that are worth anything are too expensive (exceptions are there of course) while the cheap ones (read cheap schools.

Post by wtvanhest » Mon, May 14, 2012, 6:19 PM UTC

yashchandra wrote: post #237

wtvanhest wrote: post #232

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There are tons of undergrad programs that are less than $10k per year. Big state schools which will give you all the social experiences you need and some of the learning. No HR department can interview people without a degree when there are so many people with degrees. A degree doesn't get you in the door, but is a minimum standard for just about any job. It is too bad school is too expensive, but it doesn't matter.

"It is too bad school is too expensive, but it doesn't matter." It does matter. The schools that are worth anything are too expensive (exceptions are there of course) while the cheap ones (read cheap schools.