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Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by mrtksn »

mistermann wrote: post #246
mrtksn wrote: post #216

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Apparently not, lives have been shattered because old mens ambitions since ever. Europeans and British can no longer live and work in their respective countries because of old mens ambitions. Because of old mens ambitions large number of Americans no longer believe in democratic elections. Because of old mens ambitions countless people have died in the middle east and other places. What Russia is ahead of is that the…

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Oh I don’t claim that the old men are the problem, it’s just that some ambitious old men can indeed cause huge destruction.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by Balgair »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #197
spywaregorilla wrote: post #154

A few months ago analysts were warning of impending collapse of Russia's troops due to poor supplies and poor morale. Russian cheerleaders on HN were doubting it as Western propaganda saying it had been declared for months and not materialized. Well it materialized in the collapse of the Kharkiv front over a week so there's that. In all, I don't think the mobilization is likely to matter. The Russian problem is bad s…

Another thing that could change the war could be North Korean men and/or Chinese material. Neither are likely, but both are possible and have been rumored.

The possibility of DPRK munitions use is discussed here : https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1567227150926766081

TLDR: DPRK munitions are more likely to explode in transport and kill RF units than to ever be used against AFU.

As for DPRK soldiers, I'm not sure even Kim is stupid enough to follow Putin into this morass.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by batmanturkey »

ChildOfChaos wrote: post #231
batmanturkey wrote: post #162

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Your statements are not backed up with either public communication or a lack of monetary support. In fact, the US just sent over a billion more $ in military aid. Think again.

I understand, but I feel like they are monitoring the situation and making sure they walk that line clearly. Hence why they keep trickling the spending to them, they are monitoring and adjusting. They could have done much more and given way more, why those are large numbers, it's still not on the scale truly needed to defeat Russia. They still hold back plenty. They are obviously not going to say that directly in pub…

I don’t think it’s so tricky to analyze: they’ve deliberately sent weapons that are effective for liberation of Ukrainian territory and not sent weapons appropriate for conquesting Russia with. Germany has its own inner soul struggle regarding moving from a pacifist stance to being able to support Ukraine, but the UK and US support hasn’t been ambiguous in any way I see it.

All of this could change in a second if Pooty either messes with Moldavia/Poland/Baltics or uses um unconventional weapons. I would not consider measured responses to be an open invitation for silliness

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

Markoff wrote: post #210
rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #118

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>Russia appears to have 10x the casualties as Ukraine Reliable source? That isn't what I read anywhere from not-so-partial sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrain...

I like how Russian forces have various estimates, but for Ukrainian forces we take Ukraine data for granted, while the truth is both countries are highly likely downplaying their losses, same as both of their dictators are same corrupted thieves as proven in Pandora Papers last year when they were appearing together in all articles. Can't believe someone believes any data coming from these 3rd world countries.

Of course both sides have an interest in downplaying their losses, and exaggerating their victories. Do you think that reporters and conflict analysts aren't perfectly aware of this ancient fact?

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by eternalban »

yrgulation wrote: post #190
durnygbur wrote: post #31

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Their automotive industry and demography are on catastrophic crossroads, ~100 mln of people and the land between Germany and Russia are just such convenient resources.

Their automotive industry depends on east europe, and is a massive source of pollution and clocked cars. Some countries tried banning old german cars but obviously the eu “threatened” them with “sanctions”. So its not just the resources they are after but also their pockets and health. Just here on this forum you can see many express disdain at east europeans, more than any other group of people, instead of acting li…

It is interesting how neither the Russians nor the West delves on to what extent this whole affair is about Germany, and the role Germany played in all this. Even now, the official narratives involving Germany focus on foot dragging on arming, stuff like that, whereas the actual geopolitical story is so much more 'interesting'.

Btw, history calls with a rude interruption to remind that the Germans were also the first to give the Yugoslavian civil war a nice big push to get it going.

https://apnews.com/article/f07f4162e6bb20a7039c69d10e526a62

p.s. EU (Germany+France) + Russia + China as foundational to next layer BRI + BRICS, countering "Anglo-Saxon" Empire of Waters.

This is what the war is actually about. Take out the Schnaps and get Schroeder and Merkle drunk and they will tell you all about it. :-)

[preemptive p.s.s. Yes, of course, but that's why NS2 had to be stopped.]

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by rippercushions »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #197
spywaregorilla wrote: post #154

A few months ago analysts were warning of impending collapse of Russia's troops due to poor supplies and poor morale. Russian cheerleaders on HN were doubting it as Western propaganda saying it had been declared for months and not materialized. Well it materialized in the collapse of the Kharkiv front over a week so there's that. In all, I don't think the mobilization is likely to matter. The Russian problem is bad s…

Another thing that could change the war could be North Korean men and/or Chinese material. Neither are likely, but both are possible and have been rumored.

Neither has any interest in getting involved in this. I'm not sure even Assad's fighters from Syria materialized in the end, and that regime is far more indebted to Russia than China, much less the DPRK, will ever be.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by mrtksn »

origin_path wrote: post #259
mrtksn wrote: post #216

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Apparently not, lives have been shattered because old mens ambitions since ever. Europeans and British can no longer live and work in their respective countries because of old mens ambitions. Because of old mens ambitions large number of Americans no longer believe in democratic elections. Because of old mens ambitions countless people have died in the middle east and other places. What Russia is ahead of is that the…

"Europeans and British can no longer live and work in their respective countries because of old mens ambitions" This is nonsense. There are millions of people from different European countries working in the UK, including new arrivals post-Brexit. Around half of women voted to leave the EU. One of the senior politicians who supported Vote Leave is a middle aged British Indian woman. https://www.statista.com/statistic…

The caveat is, you need to ask for permission from the government first, pay money and get processed.

That’s the case for every country. Even North Koreans can work and live anywhere in the world if you choose to dismiss the difficulties.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by stnikolauswagne »

kjeetgill wrote: post #142
Mesopropithecus wrote: post #90

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Mobilization could be a sign that it's no longer about face but about ass.

What does this mean?

I presume its about what to „save“ as in „saving face“, i.e. keeping your reputation intact vs. „Saving ass“, i.e. staying alive/in power.

Keeping up the facade of this being a „special military operation“ left alive the excuse of „we are not really trying all that hard to win this“ whereas (partial) mobilization more signlas towards „this is going south lets do whatever works to end this“

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Post by c1sc0 »

piva00 wrote: post #152
_V_ wrote: post #48

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If I had to guess (and I'm really hoping that I'm wrong) I'd say that RUS will use small tactical nuclear weapons on UA which will trigger NATO response. Either direct on indirect but with such impact that it will not matter so RUS will escalate the conflict with NATO. China is a question but I'd say that noone is benefiting from WW3 apart from perhaps military industry. So I don't really believe China will be too ha…

> I'd say that noone is benefiting from WW3 apart from perhaps military industry. What do you mean? If nuclear escalation happens and WW3 is triggered there is absolutely no world for the military industry to benefit from. Weapons will be required, of course, so production will continue but there would be no semblance of economy or governments as we know them now. Nukes flying are world-ending, at least the human wor…

> There's no profit to be made in total global mayhem.

Unless you calculate you can be the last man standing in a world with drastically reduced pressure on natural resources due to depopulation

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by rippercushions »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #203

130 points, 3 hours ago, 184 comments Not on the front page or the second page of HN. The comments have been civil, all things considered. These events have been extremely consequential and possibly the root cause of the looming global recession.

C'mon, you can't expect potential WW3 to trump the current #1 item on HN: a 2011 article about "Effects of grill patterns on fan performance/noise".
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