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Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by aidenn0 »

jxcl wrote: post #259
coldpie wrote: post #188

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All that makes sense, but forget Apple, one of the Android manufacturers should serve this market. I feel like there's a sizeable niche that could fund one small, high quality Android phone. It's really never been done; all the small phones that have come out have been compromised in some way. Sony's Xperia Compact line came the closest, but it doesn't use stock Android, which is a huge point against it. I feel like…

Palm makes a phone that might fit what you're looking for https://palm.com/

How did I not know about this? I just replaced my phone, so I can't really justify the switch, but that is almost exactly the phone I want! My only nitpick would be 32GB storage seems insufficient since android takes multiple GB of that and music collections plus a few apps will use up the rest quite quickly.

[edit] On My phone "System" is listed as 11 GB, other google apps add up to another couple GB, and my music collection is 14GB so out-of-the-box I could see me having just 5GB free with no other apps.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by chongli »

ubercow13 wrote: post #204
m12k wrote: post #126

Compared to my first gen SE, I'd like the faster processor, better camera and better battery life. But I'm not sure I'm willing to go up in size and weight, and get the rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed. For me, a bigger screen isn't a plus - after years of following the trend and being on my phone more and more, I managed to kick the habit and I'm very happy that my phone has now found its ri…

>rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed I don't get this criticism - I owned a 5 series iPhone and the anodized finish was anything but easy to grip. It looked nice but massively reduced the friction between your hand and the surface, making it the easiest phone to drop that I have ever held. Their lightness didn't help either. Conversely the newer iPhones with glass backs stick to your skin almost…

What climate do you live in? I live in the north (Canada) and during the winter my skin gets very dry. The glass and metal of recent iPhones feels extremely slippery to my dry skin. I use a rubberized case which makes the phone much more grippable, at the cost of even more bulk. I really want a small, lightweight, grippable iPhone.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by iso1631 »

ianai wrote: post #221
iso1631 wrote: post #207

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I've had smart phones for over a decade, and a mobile phone for 2, I can't think of any point when I've needed water resistance. I have however had a smashed screen once, and the bigger a phone is, the harder it is to hold, the more likely the screen will smash The old macbooks were great with the maglock power lead not pulling them off the desk. I believe new ones have downgraded the connector?

New ones just charge over usb-c.

Which isn't magnetic (unless you get extra kit)

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by unethical_ban »

aidenn0 wrote: post #261
jxcl wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Palm makes a phone that might fit what you're looking for https://palm.com/

How did I not know about this? I just replaced my phone, so I can't really justify the switch, but that is almost exactly the phone I want! My only nitpick would be 32GB storage seems insufficient since android takes multiple GB of that and music collections plus a few apps will use up the rest quite quickly. [edit] On My phone "System" is listed as 11 GB, other google apps add up to another couple GB, and my music c…

I just learned about it, too. Your complaint doesn't jive with the purpose of the device: A communication device.

It makes specific points to say that it is meant for those who don't want the phone to be a distraction. I don't recall the camera specs, but I can't imagine it's good by 2020 standards. Music, sure - it seems like the right size for a good MP3 player (remember that term, kids?)

I like the idea of a palm phone. Part of me thinks about getting a phone like it, and then a Oneplus 7T phablet, and swapping the SIM like you would swap a watch for different occasions.

Actually, depending on the response time and the reliability of getting SMS and calls post-swap, that sounds tempting...

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by fumar »

sbruno wrote: post #230
m12k wrote: post #126

Compared to my first gen SE, I'd like the faster processor, better camera and better battery life. But I'm not sure I'm willing to go up in size and weight, and get the rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed. For me, a bigger screen isn't a plus - after years of following the trend and being on my phone more and more, I managed to kick the habit and I'm very happy that my phone has now found its ri…

I hear you. I was like you for the longest time. I had an SE for 3~ years and I absolutely loved it. I researched and researched to find another phone with the exact same dimensions. Couldnt find anything. The thought of moving up to a bigger phone pained me. I eventually bought the iphone 8 about 6 months ago. And my god, it is just as good if not better. The size that scared me so much? Turns out I like it even mor…

I agree the 8 and now the SE 2020 is a great size. I traded up to the 11 and found the size difference to be negligible. You can see for yourself in the dimensions section: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=9847#diff-*,*...

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by kube-system »

kabacha wrote: post #239

The obsession with this phone never ceases to amaze me. I'm really trying to get it but I think there's very vocal minority discussing this: american iphone fans. I would never imagine buying a 64GB non-expandable phone with a single camera and such absurd screen for 480€ in 2020. New 128GB+sd slot s10e is around 450€ and that did small form factor _right_. For a tech forum the iphone se obsession just seems so alien…

I too used to buy phones based on their hardware specs.

Then I got frustrated that I had to buy a new device every 2 years just to get a software update. My 5 year old iPhone got iOS 13.4 at the same time as everyone else.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by plorkyeran »

bluntfang wrote: post #246
m12k wrote: post #126

Compared to my first gen SE, I'd like the faster processor, better camera and better battery life. But I'm not sure I'm willing to go up in size and weight, and get the rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed. For me, a bigger screen isn't a plus - after years of following the trend and being on my phone more and more, I managed to kick the habit and I'm very happy that my phone has now found its ri…

>the rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed. Do people really not use a case with their phones? edit: Can anyone explain the downvotes? is this a bad question?

Why would I want to make my already too large phone even bigger by adding a case?

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by unethical_ban »

millstone wrote: post #26
mbesto wrote: post #18

> Once you get used to the post-iPhone-X interaction model, there’s no going back. A week with the new SE has not shaken my belief that the X-style interaction design is superior. Not one iota. I have an iPhone 8 (TouchID) and an iPad Pro (FaceID) and personally the multi-tasking gestures are ridiculously inferior to the home button. FaceID is nice (ApplePay, unlocking, etc) but switching to another app (multi-taskin…

I do miss the home button for authentication. FaceID requires "full attention", while TouchID works even while distracted, and (crucially) in landscape. But for multitasking, I really do prefer the swipe-up gesture. I don't find it painful at all, it feels very natural: touch from the bottom, slide up, and then horizontally to select what you want.

I have held out for a while upgrading my LG G7 on android due to one crucial feature for me: Notification LED for my personal phone. (PS: "NotifyBuddy" looks like something that could satisfy my minimum requirement on OLED screens)

I like Apple for work, and I just ordered an SE 2020 on my upgrade plan, to replace my 8.

Why? Other than liking a small phone for work, I do not want to lose fingerprint auth. FaceID means no masks, no landscape, trouble in darkness (I think), trouble in bed or with smooshed face, trouble when the phone is on a desk and I'm looking at it from an angle.

With under-screen fingerprint readers being possible from Oneplus, it must be a matter of cost/Apple-ian adherence to moving on from a technology with purpose, even when you don't need to.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by ehsankia »

1996 wrote: post #122
vernon99 wrote: post #99

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Check Palm Phone

no NFC, which I need for work no Qi wireless, which is really problematic with a 4h battery life. Still, I ordered got one to play with and evaluate the form factor, in the hope the next version will have both NFC and Qi

I don't get it, do people expect magic? How do people think you're gonna fit all the features from a 6" phone into a device literally half the volume. Phones are already packed to the brim. When you make a smaller phone, other than the display, everything else takes the same size and uses the same amount of power.

This is the main reason phones have actually getting bigger. Not because people want huge phones, but because people want wireless charging, NFC, 3 cameras, high refresh rate, etc, and a much bigger battery to support all of those extra features.

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