8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

> This applies to a very small minority of men. The confident, attractive types with great bodies. An average woman will still get lots of attention on dating website and have a lot of guys to pick from, an average guy won't really get any attention on such websites.

I don't know where you live/what dating pool you have experience with, but here are some contrasting anecdotal observations from NYC:

1) Straight women I know here get way more swipes than straight guys, but lots of straight guys will swipe indiscriminately and immediately unmatch, or will send extremely lazy or off-putting, salacious messages a ton of the time. It's not everyone, but it's common enough to be extremely obnoxious and discourage straight women from swiping right on guys or messaging them. They get more swipes, but more of those are noise.

2) Straight guys will get way fewer matches, and straight women will tend not to message them first/respond very often. This encourages some guys to swipe indiscriminately (see above), though my straight guy friends who are more measured have far more success.

3) Attractive/hip people tend to date each other. The hot guys aren't out there dating less attractive women/taking them out of the dating pool for less conventionally-attractive guys.

4) I've seen awkward, conventionally unattractive straight guys get tons of dates online. It seems a bit harder than if they are conventionally attractive, but none of them seem to have any trouble finding dates.

5) Some of my friends have unrealistic standards for their partners, whom they expect to be more attractive, socially graceful, fashionable, intelligent, and/or wealthy than themselves. These friends either reject everyone they might have a chance with on dating sites or complain about their partners.

6) I've seen plenty of really hot women with homely men and vice versa in couples I know. I can't say I've noticed that women have an easier time than men "dating up" in terms of conventional attractiveness. It seems like conventional attractiveness is just a starting point, but good presentation, social graces, and wealth markers can push overall attractiveness arbitrarily far in either direction.

It probably varies a lot from place to place, but in my slice of NYC, it's not particularly dominated by conventional attractiveness, and overall outcomes seem similar across genders (despite the swiping behavior differences noted at first). Standards of conventional attractiveness also vary widely of course.

> You start by joking that you are a jew-hating nazi and then after a while you become an actual jew-hating nazi. How does that work psychologically?

I think that's just a reaction of the mind to repeated exposure. There was an article on the work of Facebook contractors who are responsible for moderating content: one of the interviewees confessed that they ended up unintentionally internalizing/accepting the tin-foil conspiracies they repeatedly saw in the line of duty (it was 9/11 trutherism, IIRC).

My theory is you don't even have to say it jokingly, you just have to see it over and over again, and the mind will learn by rote - using the same underlying hardware as spaced repetition.

Yes, these are mine expressions for what I seen in that story. Clueless joking is how the initial situation comes across in that story to me. Someone who just makes a joke but that is not because of antisemitism, but to troll.

The "should be more passive" is how I would sum up the reaction of main character to the part where there is large pushback from initial targets. Each pushback legitimize escalations.

Specific question:

> You start by joking that you are a jew-hating nazi and then after a while you become an actual jew-hating nazi.

My point here is that the answer to that is more complex. The hardcore push-back to initial joke does not happen, but there is a lot of socialization involving Jew jokes or whatever with no push-back at all - or where push back against it makes you pussy. Initial targets of joking were not random in the first place either.

There also is process by which that person becomes extremist with zero to no interaction from target of hate.

You're so meta.

Its a normal part of me looking up manifestos and videos that other media sites dance around when I want to know what happened.

I'll browse a twitter thread for a good 30 seconds after being made aware of a mass shooting, if everyone is congratulating each other for not saying someone's name and not posting the gopro video I'll just go straight to 4chan or 8chan.