How much does it cost to run these? I see mentions of Claude and I assume all of these tools connect to a third party LLM api. I wish these could be run locally too.
Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
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#252I wonder how long it'll take (if it hasn't already) until the messaging around this inevitably moves on to "Do not self-host this, are you crazy? This requires console commands, don't be silly! Our team of industry-veteran security professionals works on your digital safety 24/7, you would never be able to keep up with the demands of today's cybersecurity attack spectrum. Any sane person would host their claw with us…
ShowHN post from yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47091792
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
This doesn't seem to be promoting every new monstrosity? "m definitely a bit sus'd to run OpenClaw specifically - giving my private data/keys to 400K lines of vibe coded monster that is being actively attacked at scale is not very appealing at all. Already seeing reports of exposed instances, RCE vulnerabilities, supply chain poisoning, malicious or compromised skills in the registry, it feels like a complete wild we…
And yet wasn’t he one of the first to run it and was one of the many people to have a bunch of his data leaked?
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#254Why mac mini instead of something like a raspberry pi? Aren't thede claw things delegating inference to OpenAI, Antropic etc.?
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#255I'm impressed with how we moved from "AI is dangerous", "Skynet", "don't give AI internet access or we are doomed", "don't let AI escape" to "Hey AI, here is internet, do whatever you want".
> “we” Bunch of Twitter lunatics and schizos are not “we”.
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#256If we have to do this, can we at least use the seahorse emoji as the symbol?
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#257I'm impressed with how we moved from "AI is dangerous", "Skynet", "don't give AI internet access or we are doomed", "don't let AI escape" to "Hey AI, here is internet, do whatever you want".
Because even really bad autonomous automation is pretty cool. The marketing has always been aimed at the general public who know nothing
I am not specifically talking about this issue, but do remember that very little bad happens in the world without the active or even willing participation of engineers. We make the tools and structures.
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#258I'm impressed with how we moved from "AI is dangerous", "Skynet", "don't give AI internet access or we are doomed", "don't let AI escape" to "Hey AI, here is internet, do whatever you want".
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#259I don't understand the mac mini hype. Why can it not be a vm?
If you, like me, don't care about any of that stuff you can use anything plus use SoTA models through APIs. Even raspberry pi works.
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This doesn't seem to be promoting every new monstrosity? "m definitely a bit sus'd to run OpenClaw specifically - giving my private data/keys to 400K lines of vibe coded monster that is being actively attacked at scale is not very appealing at all. Already seeing reports of exposed instances, RCE vulnerabilities, supply chain poisoning, malicious or compromised skills in the registry, it feels like a complete wild we…