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Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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How much does it cost to run these? I see mentions of Claude and I assume all of these tools connect to a third party LLM api. I wish these could be run locally too.

$3k Ryzen ai-max PCs with 128GB of unified ram is said to run this reasonably well. But don't quote me on it.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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I wonder how long it'll take (if it hasn't already) until the messaging around this inevitably moves on to "Do not self-host this, are you crazy? This requires console commands, don't be silly! Our team of industry-veteran security professionals works on your digital safety 24/7, you would never be able to keep up with the demands of today's cybersecurity attack spectrum. Any sane person would host their claw with us…

Yep. Not YC backed, but we're working on this over at LobsterHelper.

ShowHN post from yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47091792

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't seem to be promoting every new monstrosity? "m definitely a bit sus'd to run OpenClaw specifically - giving my private data/keys to 400K lines of vibe coded monster that is being actively attacked at scale is not very appealing at all. Already seeing reports of exposed instances, RCE vulnerabilities, supply chain poisoning, malicious or compromised skills in the registry, it feels like a complete wild we…

And yet wasn’t he one of the first to run it and was one of the many people to have a bunch of his data leaked?

Source on that? Hadn’t seen that

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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I'm impressed with how we moved from "AI is dangerous", "Skynet", "don't give AI internet access or we are doomed", "don't let AI escape" to "Hey AI, here is internet, do whatever you want".

> “we” Bunch of Twitter lunatics and schizos are not “we”.

I am equally if not more grateful than HN is just as unrepresentative.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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I'm impressed with how we moved from "AI is dangerous", "Skynet", "don't give AI internet access or we are doomed", "don't let AI escape" to "Hey AI, here is internet, do whatever you want".

Because even really bad autonomous automation is pretty cool. The marketing has always been aimed at the general public who know nothing

It's not the general public who know nothing that develop and release software.

I am not specifically talking about this issue, but do remember that very little bad happens in the world without the active or even willing participation of engineers. We make the tools and structures.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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I'm impressed with how we moved from "AI is dangerous", "Skynet", "don't give AI internet access or we are doomed", "don't let AI escape" to "Hey AI, here is internet, do whatever you want".

There was a small group of doomers and scifi obsessed terminally online ppl that said all these things. Everyone else said its a better Google and can help them write silly haikus. Coders thought it can write a lot of boilerplate code.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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I don't understand the mac mini hype. Why can it not be a vm?

it's because Apple blocks access to iMessage and other Appe services from non Apple os.

If you, like me, don't care about any of that stuff you can use anything plus use SoTA models through APIs. Even raspberry pi works.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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This doesn't seem to be promoting every new monstrosity? "m definitely a bit sus'd to run OpenClaw specifically - giving my private data/keys to 400K lines of vibe coded monster that is being actively attacked at scale is not very appealing at all. Already seeing reports of exposed instances, RCE vulnerabilities, supply chain poisoning, malicious or compromised skills in the registry, it feels like a complete wild we…

what people read: AI Scientist says blah blah blah claws is very cool. Buy Mac, be happy.
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