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Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by Sebguer »

cruffle_duffle wrote: post #213
maleldil wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you a paying customer? I exclusively use their best model and while I get warnings (stuff about longer chats leading to more limit usage), I've never been kicked out. The only thing is that they've recently started defaulting to Concise to cut costs, which is fine with me.

Concise mode is honestly better anyway. I’d prefer it always be in that mode. But that being said I bump into hard limits far more often than I do with ChatGPT. Even if I keep chats short like it constantly suggests, eventually it cuts me off.

It's a selectable style at any time in Claude.ai, FYI!

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by rvz »

johnisgood wrote: post #182

I much prefer Claude over ChatGPT, based on my experience using both extensively. Claude understands me significantly better and seems to "know" my intentions with much greater ease. For example, when I request the full file, it provides it without any issues or unnecessary reiterations (ChatGPT fails after me repeatedly instructing it to), often confirming my request with a brief summary beforehand, but nothing more…

Well they better know how to reduce their request-response latency since there are multiple reports of users not being able to use Claude at high load.

With all those billions and these engineers, I'd expect a level of service that doesn't struggle over at Google-level scale.

Unbelievable.

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Post by UltraSane »

Claude Sonnet 3.5 is simply amazing. No matter how much I used it I continue to be amazed at what it can produce.

I recently asked it what the flow of data is when two vNICs on the same host send data to each other and it produced a very detailed answer complete with a really nice diagram. I then asked what langue the diagram uses and it said Mermaid. So I then asked it to produce some example L1,2,3 diagrams for computer networks and it did just that. So it then asked it to produce Python code using PyATS to run show commands on Cisco switches and routers and use the data to produce Mermaid network diagrams for layers 1,2, and 3 and it just spit out working Python code. This is a relatively obscure task with a specific library no one outside of Networking knows about integrating with a diagram generator. And it fully understands the difference in network layers. Just astonishing. And now it can write and run Javascript apps. The only feature I really want is for it to be able to run generated Python code to see if it has any errors and automatically fix them.

If progress on LLMs doesn't stall they will be truly amazing in just 10 years. And probably consuming 5% of global electricity.

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Post by rjh29 »

gcanko wrote: post #176
rmbyrro wrote: post #159

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Sonnet is better than 4o for virtually all use cases. The only reason I still use OpenAI's API and chatbot service is o1-preview. o1 is like magic. Everything Sonnet and 4o do poorly, o1 solves like a piece of cake. Architecting, bug fixing, planning, refactoring, o1 has never let me know on any 'hard' task. A nice combo is have o1 guiding Sonnet. I ask o1 to come up with a solution and explanation, then simply feed…

Exactly my experience as well. Like Sonnet can help me in 90% of the cases but there are some specific edge cases where it struggles that o1 can solve in an instant. I kinda hate it because of having to pay for both of them.

I use tabnine, it let's you switch models.

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Post by rjh29 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #230
rybosome wrote: post #218

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That’s funny, but open weight, local models are pretty usable depending on the task.

You're right, but that's also subject to compute costs and time value of money. The calculus is different for companies trying to exploit language models in some way, and different for individuals like me who have to feed the family before splurging for a new GPU, or setting up servers in the cloud, when I can get better value by paying OpenAI or Claude a few dollars and use their SOTA models until those dollars run…

I guess the cost model doesn't work because you're buying gpu that you use about 0.1% of the day

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Post by edmundsauto »

skerit wrote: post #223
johnisgood wrote: post #182

I much prefer Claude over ChatGPT, based on my experience using both extensively. Claude understands me significantly better and seems to "know" my intentions with much greater ease. For example, when I request the full file, it provides it without any issues or unnecessary reiterations (ChatGPT fails after me repeatedly instructing it to), often confirming my request with a brief summary beforehand, but nothing more…

I just use the API (well, via Openrouter) together with custom frontends like Open WebUI. No rate limiting issues then, and I can super easily switch models even in an existing conversation. Though I guess I do miss a few bells & whistles from the proprietary chat interfaces.

Does this have any sort of “project” concept? I frequently load a few pdfs into clause about a topic, then quiz it to improve my understanding. That’s about the only thing keeping me in their web UI

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Post by senderista »

aliasxneo wrote: post #2

> Amazon Web Services will also become Anthropic’s “primary cloud and training partner,” according to a blog post. From now on, Anthropic will use AWS Trainium and Inferentia chips to train and deploy its largest AI models. I suspect that's worth more than $4B in the long term? I'm not familiar with the costs, though.

Inferentia...Bollocks

Sorry.

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Post by flkiwi »

staticman2 wrote: post #242
flkiwi wrote: post #236

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I'm not sure which part in the chain is responsible, but the Kagi Assistant got extremely testy with me when (a) I was using Claude for its engine (hold that thought) and (b) I asked the Assistant how much it changed its approach when I changed to ChatGPT, etc. (Kagi Assistant can access different models, but I have no idea how it works.) The Assistant insisted, indignantly, that it was completely separate from Claud…

The model likely sees something like this: ~~ User: Hello! Assistant: Hi there how can I help you? User: I just changed your model how do you feel? ~~ In other words it has no idea that you changed models. There's no meta data telling it this. That said Poe handles it differently and tells the model when another model said something, but oddly enough doesn't tell the current model what it's name is. On Poe when you s…

Thing is, it didn't even try to answer my question about switching. It was indignant that there was any connection to switch. The conversation went rapidly off course before I--and this is a weird thing to say--I reassured it that I wasn't questioning its existence.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by VirusNewbie »

paxys wrote: post #127
jatins wrote: post #13

Anthropic gets a lot of it's business via AWS Bedrock so it's fair to say that Amazon probably has reasonable insight into how the Claude usage is growing that makes them confident in this investment

They are also confident in the investment because they know that all the money is going to come right back to them in the short term (via AWS spending) whether or not Anthropic actually survives in the long term.

But anthropic is currently on GCP.
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