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Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by pgraf »

hirvi74 wrote: post #222
TimTheTinker wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude also more readily corrects me or answers "no" to a question (when the answer should be "no").

So, I have a custom prompt I use with GPT that I found here a year or so ago. One of the custom prompt instructions was something along the lines of being more direct when it does not know something. Since then, I have not had that problem, and have even managed to get just "no" or "I don't know" as an answer.

Could you maybe post it here? I think many of us would find it useful to try.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by bottom999mottob »

johnisgood wrote: post #182

I much prefer Claude over ChatGPT, based on my experience using both extensively. Claude understands me significantly better and seems to "know" my intentions with much greater ease. For example, when I request the full file, it provides it without any issues or unnecessary reiterations (ChatGPT fails after me repeatedly instructing it to), often confirming my request with a brief summary beforehand, but nothing more…

For long chats, I suggest exporting any artifacts, asking Claude to summarize the chat and put the artifacts and summarization in a project. There's no need to stuff Claude's context windows, especially if you tend to ask a lot of explanation-type questions like I do.

I've also read some people get around rate limits using the API through OpenRouter, and I'm sure you could hook a document store around that easily, but the Claude UI is low-friction

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by greenie_beans »

modriano wrote: post #190
submeta wrote: post #183

I had to switch from Pro to Teams plan and pay 150 USD for 5 accounts because the Pro plan has gotten unusable. It will allow me to ask a dozen or so questions and then will block me for hours because of „high capacity.“ I don’t need five accounts, one for 40 USD would be totally fine if it would allow me to work uninterrupted for a couple of hours. All in all Claude is magic. It feels like having ten assistants at m…

I just start new chats whenever the chat gets long (in terms of number of tokens). It's kind of a pain to have to form a prompt that encapsulates enough context, but it has prevented me from hitting the Pro limit. Also, I include more questions and detail in each prompt. Why does that work? Claude includes the entire chat with each new prompt you submit [0], and the limit is based on the number of tokens you've submi…

> It's kind of a pain to have to form a prompt that encapsulates enough context, but it has prevented me from hitting the Pro limit. Also, I include more questions and detail in each prompt.

i get it to provide a prompt to start the new chat. i sometimes wish there was a button for it bc it's such a big part of my workflow

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by KennyBlanken »

pertymcpert wrote: post #224
hirvi74 wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've started to notice that GPT-* vs. Claude is quite domain (and even subdomain) specific. For programming, when using languages like C, python, ruby, C#, and JS, both seemed fairly comparable to me. However, I was astounded at how awful Claude was at Swift. Most of what I would get from Claude wouldn't even compile, contained standard library methods that did not exist, and so on. For whatever reason, GPT is night…

I wonder if OpenAI have been less strict about not training on proprietary or legally questionable code sources.

That seems highly likely given Sam Friedman's extensive reputation across multiple companies as being abusive, a compulsive liar, and willing to outright do blatantly illegal things like using a celebrity's voice and then, well...lie about it.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by arnaudsm »

guptadagger wrote: post #207
johnisgood wrote: post #182

I much prefer Claude over ChatGPT, based on my experience using both extensively. Claude understands me significantly better and seems to "know" my intentions with much greater ease. For example, when I request the full file, it provides it without any issues or unnecessary reiterations (ChatGPT fails after me repeatedly instructing it to), often confirming my request with a brief summary beforehand, but nothing more…

Speaking of ChatGPT getting worse over time, it would be interesting to see ChatGPT be benchmarked continuously to see how it performs over time (and the results published somewhere publically). Even local variations would be interesting

https://livebench.ai/ does that, the latest gpt4o underperforms previous versions significantly

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by flkiwi »

TimTheTinker wrote: post #209
johnisgood wrote: post #182

I much prefer Claude over ChatGPT, based on my experience using both extensively. Claude understands me significantly better and seems to "know" my intentions with much greater ease. For example, when I request the full file, it provides it without any issues or unnecessary reiterations (ChatGPT fails after me repeatedly instructing it to), often confirming my request with a brief summary beforehand, but nothing more…

Claude also more readily corrects me or answers "no" to a question (when the answer should be "no").

I'm not sure which part in the chain is responsible, but the Kagi Assistant got extremely testy with me when (a) I was using Claude for its engine (hold that thought) and (b) I asked the Assistant how much it changed its approach when I changed to ChatGPT, etc. (Kagi Assistant can access different models, but I have no idea how it works.) The Assistant insisted, indignantly, that it was completely separate from Claude. It refused to describe how it used the various engines.

I politely explained that the Assistant interface allowed selecting from these engines and it became apologetic and said it couldn't give me more information but understood why I was asking.

Peculiar, but, when using Claude, entirely convincing.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by celestialcheese »

vineyardmike wrote: post #55
whatshisface wrote: post #33

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Anthropic is getting $4B in investment in a year where their revenue was about $850M. Even if Amazon had bought them outright for that much, they would not be ahead. The fact that everybody keeps repeating the claim that Amazon is "making money" makes this appear like some kind of scam.

These sort of investments usually also contain licensing deals. Amazon probably gets Anthropic models they can resell “for free”. The 850M revenue is Anthropic’s, but there is incremental additional revenue to AWS’s hosted model services. AWS was already doing lots of things with Anthropic models, and this may alter the terms more in amazons favor. Are they actually making money ? I don’t know, investments aren’t usu…

And access to use anthropics models internally, where you have some guarantees and oversight that your corp and customer data aren't leaking where you don't want it to.

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by _just7_ »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #234
pertymcpert wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if OpenAI have been less strict about not training on proprietary or legally questionable code sources.

That seems highly likely given Sam Friedman's extensive reputation across multiple companies as being abusive, a compulsive liar, and willing to outright do blatantly illegal things like using a celebrity's voice and then, well...lie about it.

I think you mean Sam Altman

Re: Amazon to invest another $4B in Anthropic

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Post by [deleted] »

flkiwi wrote: post #236
TimTheTinker wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude also more readily corrects me or answers "no" to a question (when the answer should be "no").

I'm not sure which part in the chain is responsible, but the Kagi Assistant got extremely testy with me when (a) I was using Claude for its engine (hold that thought) and (b) I asked the Assistant how much it changed its approach when I changed to ChatGPT, etc. (Kagi Assistant can access different models, but I have no idea how it works.) The Assistant insisted, indignantly, that it was completely separate from Claud…

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