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Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by daveguy »

Firmwarrior wrote: post #236
mgbmtl wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox lost power-users because 1) performance was bad 2) Chrome does very aggressive marketing and various Google sites break randomly on Firefox. And performance was very often bad because of extensions. Perhaps anecdotal, but whenever I ask a Chrome user why they don't use Firefox, that's the main two reasons they cite. I do ask often though. What "certain features" do non-tech-savvy people need? I know lots of d…

Firefox randomly broke all my extensions and workflows one day in the pursuit of some obscure technical goal, via forced update that I couldn’t roll back. I asked about it, and they banned me from their subreddit, so I deleted that stupid browser and never went back

I didn't go to Reddit, but extensions breaking was the reason I left on the desktop.

On mobile though... I switched back about a year ago, when I got sick of the ads on chrome.

If the choice is between being able to install uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger vs not being able to... I'll definitely stick with Firefox on mobile.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by jamienicol »

donkeybeer wrote: post #244
Firmwarrior wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox randomly broke all my extensions and workflows one day in the pursuit of some obscure technical goal, via forced update that I couldn’t roll back. I asked about it, and they banned me from their subreddit, so I deleted that stupid browser and never went back

And their constant user hostile redesigns. Suddenly tabs are floating separately from their pages. And now if a page is playing audio you can no longer see its favicon, etc Speaking of mobile firefox where did Save as PDF vanish and why? and so on edit: I have been told in a reply the save pdf feature still exists but has been changed for no reason to a different location in the menu

you can save as PDF from the "share" menu

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by zrobotics »

MikusR wrote: post #233
MaxMatti wrote: post #196

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Same for Firefox on Android

Firefox on Android has no tabs.

Umm, what? No, this is absolutely not accurate. They're laid out differently than desktop, but at least on android Firefox does have tabs. Not sure on iOS, but that's basically reskinned safari anyway.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by phatfish »

Zuiii wrote: post #24
friend_and_foe wrote: post #21

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You'll never get the real one unfortunately, because corpos (profit and non profit alike) do everything in marketingpseak and think their customers and users are stupid children that have to be bullshitted into behaving.

Tangentially related, but your comment reminded me of this classic: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/mozilla-now-only-...

Maybe if author of that comment put as much effort into developing their own browser as they seemed to put into that weird rant we would have a new Chrome competitor which meets their exceptions.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by alganet »

This sounds cool.

I have a wildly paranoid Firefox setup (hardened config, NoScript, Cookie AutoDelete, ClearURLs, uBlock). It basically runs everything off (js, custom fonts, cookies, etc) unless I whitelist it explicitly.

I was never quite able to replicate it on Android because some extensions didn't worked as expected or were clumsy on mobile.

Will give another try.

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Post by skrowl »

godelski wrote: post #163
batrat wrote: post #122

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>behind Samsung fucking Internet Supports adblock (addons) and shows tabs on top just like desktop so it's easy to switch, dark mode for all websites, etc. It's relative fast and lots of options. I use FF with no addons for some websites.

> shows tabs on top just like desktop Honestly, I hate this on the phone. But I get it. I had that initial cognitive disruption when FF did this. But once that was gone (idk, like 30 minutes?) I realized it was a lot nicer because I could actually reach the address bar and tabs without needing to stretch my hand. Or if I have a bigger phone, use a second hand. I mean there's a reason navigation buttons on the phones…

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Post by backendanon »

I didn't get through the article, had a hard time trying to read the text with the contrast.

To check if it was just me I used this site: https://www.accessibilitychecker.org/audit/?website=https%3A...

On the up side, at least it isn't stark white on a stark black background.

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Post by [deleted] »

godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

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Post by wintermutestwin »

mgbmtl wrote: post #232
captainmuon wrote: post #221

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I think Firefox's addon policy is one of the reasons they lost market share. Moving from oldscool extensions to webextensions they lost their unique selling point. Firefox was the only browser that you could really theme. It's adblock existed earlier and was better than others (and is soon again due to Manifest v3?). Especially for non-tech-savvy people, who don't know what a browser is, if they need a certain featur…

Firefox lost power-users because 1) performance was bad 2) Chrome does very aggressive marketing and various Google sites break randomly on Firefox. And performance was very often bad because of extensions. Perhaps anecdotal, but whenever I ask a Chrome user why they don't use Firefox, that's the main two reasons they cite. I do ask often though. What "certain features" do non-tech-savvy people need? I know lots of d…

>Firefox lost power-users

There is no better vertical tab solution than FireFox + Sidebury.

If you are using horizontal tabs, you are not a "power-user" of a browser.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by Nextgrid »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #133
veave wrote: post #120

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Most of Firefox's publicity is based on the fact that they are "on your side". That means that they are held to a much higher standard. Pretending to be on the side of the user and then screwing users up over and over seems like wanting their cake and eating it too? It's funny because, you know, I expect chrome to screw me over while I expect firefox not to screw me over but chrome has screwed me over fewer times tha…

I've yet to notice any event where firefox "screw users over" that was not vastly overblown, especially compared to the competitors. People tend to just judge Mozilla way more harshly. It's very unfair: they do good, and we ask even more of them.

> People tend to just judge Mozilla way more harshly.

It's a self-inflicted problem though. Mozilla uses every opportunity to claim they're on your side and want to protect you from the evil guys.

The nagging itself is annoying to begin with (and incomprehensible - at least ads make sense from a business point of view - but why interrupt my workflow to let me know about Colorways?), but it's made even worse with all their self-righteous BS about privacy while the browser actually being pretty poor (and not GDPR compliant due to default-on telemetry) in its default configuration.

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