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Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by jorvi »

the_gipsy wrote: post #88
drozycki wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS Safari has supported declarative content blocking extensions since iOS 9 in 2015 and a full extension API since iOS 15 released about two years ago.

Declarative blocking is the weakest, it barely removes the simplest ads. uBlock doesn't exist for iOS because it is made impossible by apple, their extension API is not a "full" API.

uBlock doesn’t, but plenty of browsers have built-in adblocking, with one of the very browsers missing it being.. drumroll.. iOS Firefox!

Mozilla refuses to address how having no adblock is a security risk, so I have moved all my friends and family over to iOS Brave.

Firefox built its own demise by having a bizarre focus on woke stuff instead of features that users direly need.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by batrat »

godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

>behind Samsung fucking Internet

Supports adblock (addons) and shows tabs on top just like desktop so it's easy to switch, dark mode for all websites, etc. It's relative fast and lots of options. I use FF with no addons for some websites.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by eipi10_hn »

drozycki wrote: post #97
the_gipsy wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Declarative blocking is the weakest, it barely removes the simplest ads. uBlock doesn't exist for iOS because it is made impossible by apple, their extension API is not a "full" API.

I haven’t seen ads on mobile Safari for as long as I can remember. Whether you choose to believe that is up to you. Can you point to an example where an extension like AdGuard would let an ad slip through? Precompiled declarative blocking is more performant and power efficient than running a content script in a JS VM at page load, which matters on a CPU and battery constrained device. I was responding to a comment cl…

It's not only the ads slipping through. Safari is so lacking in terms of API that for many sites with anti-adblock, the only way to bypass those are allowing tracking / ads connections.

Check the `@@` filters for `ios` here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters...

Adguard's default settings already do not include many tracking connections blocking filters, due to the lack of Safari's API for redirecting to neutered sources which could easily lead to breakages / anti-adblock.

In terms of privacy-protection, Safari is one of the worst.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by veave »

the_gipsy wrote: post #88
drozycki wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS Safari has supported declarative content blocking extensions since iOS 9 in 2015 and a full extension API since iOS 15 released about two years ago.

Declarative blocking is the weakest, it barely removes the simplest ads. uBlock doesn't exist for iOS because it is made impossible by apple, their extension API is not a "full" API.

>Declarative blocking is the weakest, it barely removes the simplest ads.

That's misinformation. It may not be as good as ublock origin (I don't know) but in my experience it removes practically everything.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by qwerty456127 »

That's awesome. I really want the Copy All Tab URLs extension. I will probably switch from Brave (which doesn't have it either, so I already have hundreds of tabs opened in it, waiting for a solution) to Firefox just for this. I don't want to sign up for any acount and use any cloud for my browsing history, just copy everything and dump it to another app I use to move data between devices.

That's very sad and weird mobile browsers usually don't have extensions. Firefox can probably repeat the history here - as I remember it was the first to introduce extensions (on desktop) and they are a cornerstone part of what have made it great in the first place.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by maleldil »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #113
asu_thomas wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

- They lost focus with just about every other project other than Firefox & Thunderbird which were the actual products I donated money for - They are (recently) very top heavy for a non-profit foundation and are spending non-negligible amounts of money on C-level and execs - Ideologically I disagree with them taking money with strings attached from Alphabet - (Personally) their recent trends of UX with 'dummyfication'…

> They lost focus with just about every other project other than Firefox & Thunderbird which were the actual products I donated money for

> Ideologically I disagree with them taking money with strings attached from Alphabet

How would they get more sources of funding if not exploring other projects? Firefox would never pay for itself.

I totally agree with the exec thing, however.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by benterix »

asu_thomas wrote: post #116
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- They lost focus with just about every other project other than Firefox & Thunderbird which were the actual products I donated money for - They are (recently) very top heavy for a non-profit foundation and are spending non-negligible amounts of money on C-level and execs - Ideologically I disagree with them taking money with strings attached from Alphabet - (Personally) their recent trends of UX with 'dummyfication'…

Thanks for explaining. I can't help but ask why you believe these things have happened? What went wrong and what is the alternative to Firefox? I am approximately as cynical as they come, and I'm not sure how Firefox could even exist if Google weren't keeping Mozilla alive (on life support), so I am intrigued by your criticism. I'd like to understand your viewpoint and what ideology is behind it, if any. In your view…

Yeah, I'm asking myself the same questions, too. It's obvious they have been trying many options. Some of them worked, some didn't. I criticized some of them in the past but objectively, if I was in their position, I might have made worse mistakes.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by chownie »

cubefox wrote: post #80
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #22

Out of curiosity I recently did an experiment to investigate Add-Ons in Firefox for Android. Some facts: One does not need Firefox Nightly to run more extensions than the "supported" ones. Creating a "custom" collection of Add-Ons on addons.mozilla.org can be done using a disposable email address. There is no visible Settings option to add a custom collection in Fennec from F-Droid. To make it visible, one has to go…

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The two genders, male and political.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by shinryuu »

veave wrote: post #120
godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

Most of Firefox's publicity is based on the fact that they are "on your side". That means that they are held to a much higher standard. Pretending to be on the side of the user and then screwing users up over and over seems like wanting their cake and eating it too? It's funny because, you know, I expect chrome to screw me over while I expect firefox not to screw me over but chrome has screwed me over fewer times tha…

Perhaps that is because they screw you over in secret? Whenever Firefox makes a mistake it gets very publicised, but whenever chrome does it it's just business as normal so no one really publicises it.
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