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Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by Gud »

veave wrote: post #120
godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

Most of Firefox's publicity is based on the fact that they are "on your side". That means that they are held to a much higher standard. Pretending to be on the side of the user and then screwing users up over and over seems like wanting their cake and eating it too? It's funny because, you know, I expect chrome to screw me over while I expect firefox not to screw me over but chrome has screwed me over fewer times tha…

How exactly has Firefox “screwed you over”? I’ve used Firefox since it was called Phoenix… although I don’t like the governance of the project, I would hardly say I’ve been screwed over.

Firefox has been an amazing product since day one.

Meanwhile, Chrome has literally been developed to probe your ass for data they can sell to advertisers.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by Sakos »

lemper wrote: post #48

even though i am an exclusively firefox user both on desktop and mobile, i don't even know what kind of desktop version's extension that i would use on mobile. currently, i only use adblock and so far my experience is quite stellar. though it should be noted that i use browser on phone just to consume text. no video, no audio, and even picture is rarely the focus. so, what do i miss?

SingleFile is the single most useful addon that I use (behind uBlock). It lets me download any website as HTML while keeping most of its layout/elements intact.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/single-file/

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

veave wrote: post #120
godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

Most of Firefox's publicity is based on the fact that they are "on your side". That means that they are held to a much higher standard. Pretending to be on the side of the user and then screwing users up over and over seems like wanting their cake and eating it too? It's funny because, you know, I expect chrome to screw me over while I expect firefox not to screw me over but chrome has screwed me over fewer times tha…

I've yet to notice any event where firefox "screw users over" that was not vastly overblown, especially compared to the competitors.

People tend to just judge Mozilla way more harshly.

It's very unfair: they do good, and we ask even more of them.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by orbital-decay »

CoBE10 wrote: post #49

Great! Firefox on Android was perfect until it was redesigned, and only a few extensions were allowed. I switched to the Kiwi Browser just because of that. I hope that it will work as well as it did before the extensions were removed, so I can go back.

All this time non-approved extensions were actually available for Firefox, in the form of "collections". (source: I use them on Mull)

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by heap_perms »

I want to load my own XPI files.

Because apparently, I'm not allowed to embrace the full potential of my browser by installing any extensions that haven't been hand-delivered and serenaded by the majestic Firefox Marketplace.

Please share if you're familiar with a method. I'm contemplating the creation of my own customized version of Android Firefox, incorporating code to enable installation from XPI files.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by Macha »

mrd3v0 wrote: post #62
lemper wrote: post #48

even though i am an exclusively firefox user both on desktop and mobile, i don't even know what kind of desktop version's extension that i would use on mobile. currently, i only use adblock and so far my experience is quite stellar. though it should be noted that i use browser on phone just to consume text. no video, no audio, and even picture is rarely the focus. so, what do i miss?

Dark Reader, LocalCDN, Firefox Relay, Firefox Translations, LanguageTool among others I have installed on Iceraven, a Firefox for Android fork.

consent-o-matic, tampermonkey

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

#137

Post by veave »

Gud wrote: post #131
veave wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of Firefox's publicity is based on the fact that they are "on your side". That means that they are held to a much higher standard. Pretending to be on the side of the user and then screwing users up over and over seems like wanting their cake and eating it too? It's funny because, you know, I expect chrome to screw me over while I expect firefox not to screw me over but chrome has screwed me over fewer times tha…

How exactly has Firefox “screwed you over”? I’ve used Firefox since it was called Phoenix… although I don’t like the governance of the project, I would hardly say I’ve been screwed over. Firefox has been an amazing product since day one. Meanwhile, Chrome has literally been developed to probe your ass for data they can sell to advertisers.

Last time it was 2 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36077360

In that thread there are a few more examples, most of them somewhat recent: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36077683

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by heap_perms »

unmole wrote: post #42
shmde wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your memory is failing you. Been using firefox android ( stable and beta) with the addons (ublock etc) since a few years now.

You could install custom extensions on Firefox Android. Now you have to jump through hoops to install anything that isn't blessed by Mozilla.

Indeed. They have too much authority with the marketplace. Does someone know if it is feasible to build Fenix from source, fork it and then add a startup function that sideloads any extension the user chooses, not just the blessed ones? I'm considerung doing this, but don't want to spend a lot of time doing something impossible.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by unmole »

heap_perms wrote: post #138
unmole wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could install custom extensions on Firefox Android. Now you have to jump through hoops to install anything that isn't blessed by Mozilla.

Indeed. They have too much authority with the marketplace. Does someone know if it is feasible to build Fenix from source, fork it and then add a startup function that sideloads any extension the user chooses, not just the blessed ones? I'm considerung doing this, but don't want to spend a lot of time doing something impossible.

This can be a starting point: https://github.com/fork-maintainers/iceraven-browser

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by input_sh »

maleldil wrote: post #127
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- They lost focus with just about every other project other than Firefox & Thunderbird which were the actual products I donated money for - They are (recently) very top heavy for a non-profit foundation and are spending non-negligible amounts of money on C-level and execs - Ideologically I disagree with them taking money with strings attached from Alphabet - (Personally) their recent trends of UX with 'dummyfication'…

> They lost focus with just about every other project other than Firefox & Thunderbird which were the actual products I donated money for > Ideologically I disagree with them taking money with strings attached from Alphabet How would they get more sources of funding if not exploring other projects? Firefox would never pay for itself. I totally agree with the exec thing, however.

You see, Mozilla is stuck in this limbo where people criticise them for taking money from Google, but also criticise them when they explore alternate funding sources (Pocket, Mozilla VPN, Firefox Private Network, MDN Plus) because they're not focusing on Firefox and Thunderbird. Sometimes literally in the same comment, as the one above.

In other words, HN crowd will shit on them regardless of what they do.

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