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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by 3np »

Version467 wrote: post #223

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

There's likely something to that but: It's barely been 2h. The ones who bounce are obviously back early while the ones who actually engage are probably doing just that rather than posting here.

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Post by peanuty1 »

realPubkey wrote: post #193
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Clubhouse was even more stupid by launching iOS only which killed themself.

Clubhouse was killed by Twitter Spaces.

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Post by Pigalowda »

blitzar wrote: post #131
sho_hn wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the beta, invite-only status of GMail was, at the time, the definition of Internet Cool.

So was having a facebook account

Facebook's early exclusivity was great for college kids and spreading amongst certain young people - making it cool. You had to have a .edu email to log in! It was also much better than Myspace.

Google+ was mediocre and not better than the competition. Young people didn't care about it. The exclusivity was generated by a company - it didn't appeal to the user's inherent bias. Facebook initially appealed to narcissism - the early users "knew" they were "better" than myspace users.

What was Google+ appealing to? Being a nerd?

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

kjreact wrote: post #244
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. Meanwhile ChatGPT is used everywhere in France, and it's now synonymous with AI for most people in Europe. Game over.

Just like Netscape is synonymous with browser? Just 5 years ago DeepMind was at the forefront. AI tech is changing so fast who knows who will be ahead in the next 5 years?

If Google product was ahead of the competition I would agree with you.

But GPT is just miles away better than everything else, and it keeps getting better at a scary rate, especially because the feedback loop from so many users is making it better.

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Post by johnnydoe9 »

drumhead wrote: post #136
sho_hn wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the beta, invite-only status of GMail was, at the time, the definition of Internet Cool.

Was Google+ invite only initially?

I recall that it was though I could be wrong and getting confused with a dozen other products of theirs.

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Post by whoisjuan »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #227
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Not trying to be rude, but when you're a company the size of Google - that's had MASSIVE lawsuits - you can't just willy-nilly release products globally.

This is the kind of bureaucratic thinking that is resulting in Google being incapable of innovation.

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Post by layer8 »

rileyphone wrote: post #206
realPubkey wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clubhouse was even more stupid by launching iOS only which killed themself.

It worked for Instagram - Clubhouse's failure was far more spectacular.

Clubhouse was funny. By the time I finally got access and off the waitlist it was already pretty much dead.

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Post by pb7 »

ayende wrote: post #177

I'm using paid Google account, so I'm getting that this isn't available. Makes sense, I'm already a customer, no reason to keep me as such, right?

Your paid account has an agreement not to use your data to improve the service for others. This is an experiment the purpose of which is to collect usage data to improve the service. What's confusing about that?

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Post by [deleted] »

illiarian wrote: post #31
garblegarble wrote: post #10

It's at https://bard.google.com - I tried to join the waitlist but this is yet another Google service where Google Workspaces accounts simply don't work. Back to GPT-4 then!

It looks like it also uses a 7th design of the accounts popdown, and only allows one google account. Literally no one at Google understands how accounts work: https://grumpy.website/post/0PU1U2r3v (this was 5 years ago, nothing has changed)

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Post by [deleted] »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #207
dao- wrote: post #183

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> Might be localization If that's the problem then they're not supplying the right fix. Surely restricting this to users located in the US doesn't prevent people from writing in a language that isn't English. Google should be capable of detecting the language of a query, and potentially rejecting it based on that with an apology. > PR, Obviously there must be _some_ reason why they're doing this. Doesn't mean it's a…

> That would be rather embarrassing for Google. Why? They have no idea how many users they will get. If they buy A100s on the assumption they will get 50M daily active users they run the risk of wasting an enormous amount of money if they get 1M users instead. And its not like these GPUs grow on trees. Clearly MSFT is struggling to set up compute fast enough, see the decreasing rate limits on GPT-4.

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