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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by dizhn »

amrb wrote: post #161
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Can anyone confirm VPN's works for signup?

Yes. I used one from Italy to get in the waitlist. Don't know how the rest will unfold.

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Post by [deleted] »

Kalium wrote: post #181
superfrank wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure where you are, but I always assume that means, "We're doing something that some might consider sketchy and don't want to dedicate resources to figuring out if it's legal outside the US".

I suspect it's more often "We haven't checked yet, and Legal prefers we be cautious until they have time" rather than actively thinking it's something some might consider sketchy.

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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by deelly »

Vt71fcAqt7 wrote: post #191
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Non-US countries like to fine US tech companies and create regulations ect. which we are already seeing in the EU wrt AI. So it makes sense why they don't want to be involved in that kind of thing before there is even a real product. That is, there is no upside for them aside from market share, which I agree is important but does not alone explain Google's product failures, about which much has already been written.

Sorry, just to be sure, its a theory, or you know it as a fact?

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Post by sourcecodeplz »

tedivm wrote: post #196
sourcecodeplz wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

:)) why so salty? I am salty too, ngl but it is: their product, their choice. There could be a hundred reasons why they released it like this. ChatGPT was also not available world wide when it launched.

This idea that corporate criticism is off limits simply because the corporation has the legal right to make product decisions is one of the weirdest things I regularly see. No one is claiming that they don't have a legal right to do this. Yeah, it's their product and their choice. But you're on a website with founders and tech workers. Part of what we do here is talk about why things work, why they don't, and ways to…

> There's nothing wrong with criticizing our industry or pointing out when one of the big companies regularly shoots itself in the foot

Actually, in some cases, there is: exposing your endpoints to nefarious actors from countries where there is no jurisdiction, functioning tech laws, etcetera. It is better & safer to launch small with a somewhat "trusted crowd" first. You live in a dream world or have not launched anything really on your own before. It is wrong & dangerous to follow your advice or criticism because you don't know what you don't know.

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Post by rileyphone »

realPubkey wrote: post #193
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Clubhouse was even more stupid by launching iOS only which killed themself.

It worked for Instagram - Clubhouse's failure was far more spectacular.

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Post by sebzim4500 »

dao- wrote: post #183
rospaya wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might be localization, PR, scaling, not enough capacity for the new users. I hate it but I can imagine it.

> Might be localization If that's the problem then they're not supplying the right fix. Surely restricting this to users located in the US doesn't prevent people from writing in a language that isn't English. Google should be capable of detecting the language of a query, and potentially rejecting it based on that with an apology. > PR, Obviously there must be _some_ reason why they're doing this. Doesn't mean it's a…

> That would be rather embarrassing for Google.

Why? They have no idea how many users they will get. If they buy A100s on the assumption they will get 50M daily active users they run the risk of wasting an enormous amount of money if they get 1M users instead. And its not like these GPUs grow on trees. Clearly MSFT is struggling to set up compute fast enough, see the decreasing rate limits on GPT-4.

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Post by senbrow »

pwb25 wrote: post #171
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

It never cease to amaze me how a software that is just inputs and outputs, can not be "available" in some country if you sell something, then sure goods might have laws. but just text ? lol

It's pretty much always regulatory stuff. Google is a lawsuit magnet so they are extremely paranoid with this stuff to make sure they're not breaking some obscure local law.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by visarga »

tmikaeld wrote: post #166
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Word, it took several years before Google Domains became available in Sweden. And not to mention Pixel devices, which you can't even order.

Good thing they didn't open the Google Store for Europe, now they can close it for all I care, I had to jump through hoops to get my Pixel. The Pixel battery was much worse than the battery of my wife's iPhone. Now I am sporting her old phone because I don't give a shit about the latest and greatest anymore.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by zippergz »

realPubkey wrote: post #193
tauntz wrote: post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

Clubhouse was even more stupid by launching iOS only which killed themself.

This is not what killed clubhouse. In fact, clubhouse instantly got worse when they launched the android app...
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