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Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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> "This isn't just about a fine; the Commission forcing us to change our business model effectively imposes a multi-billion-dollar tariff on Meta while requiring us to offer an inferior service."

Meta complaining about getting tariff'd is objectively hilarious.

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>This really isn't civil It's a statement of fact. Meta profits off the worst of society. It is a heinous company. If you find my comment so reprehensible, feel free to downvote, flag, etc. The crocodile-tear moralization comes across as concern trolling, and it's just a waste of bits. >What is your end goal here? You strangely keep editing this. I stated my thoughts. People are free to disagree. If it's so distressi…

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> The EU fines could stoke tensions with U.S President Donald Trump who has threatened to levy tariffs against countries that penalise U.S. companies. Mark Zuckerberg, in his appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast, specifically noted this as his goal for falling in behind Trump. That Trump would be the big-stick man that would protect Meta and other cos from foreign interference. Where "interference" is anything restricti…

Someone here hazarded the hypothesis that Trump's tariffs are a stick aimed not towards other countries, but towards American corporations, who have to pledge fealty (and resources) to Trump in exchange for relief. I think it makes a lot of sense, if any of this is rational, which I'm not entirely sold on.

It's always funny when shit happens and everyone jumps over themselves to figure out what "5D chess" the people in charge are playing. There's never any chess. They are just incompetent.

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This is a recurring Russian propaganda point, now amplified by the new US Administration. I am curious about the basis for this. Could you explain further from your perspective how you came up with this conclusion?

Those pesky Russians and common sense of using #964B00 in your navbar then getting hit for 500 million is stupid.

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There are a couple of companies in the list[1] (of seven) that aren’t US-based. ByteDance are Chinese and Booking are EU (NL). [1] https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/gatekeepers_en

Booking Holdings which Wikipedia has as the parent of booking.com seems to be US owned.

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> The US is much more resistant to it, which is a major factor in iOS share being higher and WhatsApp being an almost complete non event. iOS has a larger market share in the US because iPhones are a status symbol in America whereas Europeans couldn't care less. Which in turn makes iMessages market share larger in the US than in Europe. iPhone market share is also pretty stagnant since 2023 in the US and way down wor…

> iPhones are a status symbol in America whereas Europeans couldn't care less. Europeans absolutely could, they're just too tight fisted to actually spend money on things like protecting privacy which is a major part of the whole problem. They are perfectly fine spending money on luxury cars.

> Europeans absolutely could, they're just too tight fisted to actually spend money on things like protecting privacy which is a major part of the whole problem.

Users in the US don't care about protecting their privacy either.

Examples:

1. Google Chrome market share in the US

2. GMail market share in the US

3. Google Search market share in the US

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You cannot tell them _within the app_. You absolutely can tell the customer via your website or any other means you use to communicate with them. Do you expect Amazon marketplace sellers to be able to link to their items being on ebay or shopify from the actual Amazon website?

> Do you expect Amazon marketplace sellers to be able to link to their items being on ebay or shopify from the actual Amazon website? From the Amazon website? No. From the products they're selling? Yes, absolutely, and lots of them do, I get one of those business cards with "Find us on Amazon/Ebay/Shopify/whatever" in the box with almost every purchase. Same with apps. I obviously don't expect them to link to items f…

> From the Amazon website? No.

Why not?

A major detail you are ignoring here is Apple are the merchant of sale for everything via the App Store (Google at least were not for the Play Store at launch, I do not know if this has changed) so your comparisons do not make sense. The native app universe on iOS is closest to being an Apple run Costco.

I would be very surprised if a fulfilled by Amazon order for a third party seller contained any extra promo materials in the box for similar reasons.

> not to mention that this is 2025, the distinction between "within the app" and "via your website" is pretty meaningless in a bunch of cases.

To you. Not to your end users, and most definitely not to the platform owners.

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Booking Holdings which Wikipedia has as the parent of booking.com seems to be US owned.

Had no idea booking.com was american. I always assumed it was euro-based.

Booking.com was founded in the Netherlands and is still headquartered there, but was bought by a US company (Priceline) well over a decade ago.

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US officials and businessmen keep on repeating the same thing: > The European Commission is attempting to handicap successful American businesses while allowing Chinese and European companies to operate under different standards. But this is wildly untrue. The EU isn't hand-picking individual organisations and fining them because they're American, they're fining them because they're in breach of existing legislation.…

US corporations are too used to breaking laws as they see fit and getting away with a slap on the wrist, so being asked to follow the rules feels like an attack to them.

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US companies are free to not operate in Europe. There's nothing special about US software engineering vs. software engineering made elsewhere from a purely technical and know-how point of view. The key difference is availability of capital and appetite for risk that make US exceptional by enabling a speed of scaling and execution not possible anywhere else (well, other than China). If US companies that can't be bothe…

Perhaps the same regulations that US companies keep running afoul of are the regulations that prevent European investors from putting money behind European startup competitors.

The EU has some extremely strong consumer protection laws, which is excellent for consumers, but it comes with downsides too.

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