The US used to be the coolest place I'd do anything to visit growing up. In the last decade or so it's become way more unattractive and not worth the effort compared to alternatives.
> The US used to be the coolest place I'd do anything to visit growing up. Huh, city centers in Europe are way nicer than anything I've seen in the US. But maybe you're more interested in other things.
Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March
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Non-punitive my ass. The German tourist was put for eight days in solitary confinement: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/ice-german-t...
there's never backstory given, we're just supposed to automatically feel bad and never get to have a real story about why that decision is made. this is less of a defense of ICE than more of a push for transparency so we don't have to deal with low information appeals to emotion.
There's no backstory that justifies indefinite detention without due process.
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#244I mean, I'm a US citizen and I'm not doing foreign travel any time soon because I don't want to fly into the US either. With the way ICE is acting, I'm not going to count on my citizenship to protect me from violations of my constitutional rights.
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I doubt that seeing the Fox spin on US events would persuade many people that the US is currently a place of rationality and the rule of law.
Plus it's false that the rest of the world doesn't get the Fox spin along with the CNN spin. We get both.
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Yes but then you hang a “no guests” sign outside. You don’t let them in your house and then scream at them, lock them up in the bathroom for 2 weeks before kicking them out.
yeah locking up for 2 weeks just doesn't make any economic sense, it must cost the tax payer a fortune vs just deport them?
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Many americans loved what Hitler was doing to Make Germany Great Again. Charles Lindbergh for example blamed the Jews for WW2 > National polls showed that when England and France declared war on Germany, in 1939, less than 10 percent of our [USA] population favored a similar course for America. ... The three most important groups who have been pressing this country toward war are the British, the Jewish and the Roose…
We don’t like to talk about it but there were literal, actual Nazi rallies in support of Germany. And not fringe, either — notably one at Madison Square Garden.
Even the Trump brigade are more fascists than nazis. Not that it's a good thing, just pointing out the distinction.
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#250Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…
Anecdotally: a couple of years after 9/11, when I was a student, some of my friends who travelled to the US mysteriously disappeared for a few days. Turns out someone in the friend group had done some hackery type things (I won't go into more details to preserve their anonymity), and they were basically "detained" and interrogated for several days without being able to notify anyone, including any potential lawyers (…