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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by drstewart »

titaphraz wrote: post #23

Countries all over the world are issuing US travel warnings. If there's an error or mistake on your visa you risk being detained by ICE for weeks on end or even end up in the Gulag in El Salvador. For European visitors, they can see the fascism miles away. A lot of Europe was occupied by Hitler while the US wasn't. The extraordinary claim that Musk's salute wasn't a Nazi salute is mind boggling. Even when people have…

>Countries all over the world are issuing US travel warnings.

Can you post the plain text of these "travel warnings"?

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by bondarchuk »

stevage wrote: post #35
Apreche wrote: post #15

Finally the Republicans have done something good to help fight climate change. Less flights, less jet fuel exhaust.

I like the thought process but seriously people will just travel to other places.

Not necessarily the same distance. For example if you consider academia, the center of gravity of "serious" "western world" universities that can reasonably be visited has shifted considerably towards Europe now.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by ABS »

throwawaymaths wrote: post #42
ABS wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you need to eat and decide not to go to your usual restaurant for whatever reason... do you stop eating altogether?

No but if your usual is maguro, you're definitely cutting back on your greenhouse footprint.

except there are plenty of other restaurants serving maguro

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by shmel »

potato3732842 wrote: post #34
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. I'd be interested in alternate viewpoints since I may be in a bleeding-heart, empathetic, progressive, consequence-considering news bubble. My reasoning is t…

>I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. Exactly. Americans generally don't understand the degree to which the rest of the world gets the CNN 5min recap of what's going on in the US, and it's very…

Do their opinions matter at all? If you do get locked up, will you find this information helpful?

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

titaphraz wrote: post #23

Countries all over the world are issuing US travel warnings. If there's an error or mistake on your visa you risk being detained by ICE for weeks on end or even end up in the Gulag in El Salvador. For European visitors, they can see the fascism miles away. A lot of Europe was occupied by Hitler while the US wasn't. The extraordinary claim that Musk's salute wasn't a Nazi salute is mind boggling. Even when people have…

I haven't actually seen any travel warnings published by other nation states (yet). Do you have a source?

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by wk_end »

arccy wrote: post #19
throwawaymaths wrote: post #8

So, less greenhouse gases?

until the airlines reduce flights, the planes still fly, just emptier

Technically this still reduces emissions, since they'll burn less fuel carrying a lighter weight. Pretty sure it's negligible, though.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by throw0101c »

US-CA bookings have dropped 70%:

> Using forward booking data from a major GDS supplier, we've compared the total bookings held at this point last year with those recorded this week for the upcoming summer season. The decline is striking — bookings are down by over 70% in every month through to the end of September. This sharp drop suggests that travellers are holding off on making reservations, likely due to ongoing uncertainty surrounding the broader trade dispute.

* https://www.oag.com/blog/canada-us-airline-capacity-aviation...

* https://thehill.com/business/5218113-us-canada-airline-booki...

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by danmaz74 »

aiisahik wrote: post #13

Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…

I'm Italian, my wife is Russian and my sister lives with her family in California. I've always been pretty vocal online about my dislike for Putin, and since the war in Ukraine started, I became very worried about visiting Russia, just in case they needed some random Italian guy to extort concessions from the Italian government. So, I stopped going (we were planning a family trip right in the Summer of 2022).

For this Summer we wanted to visit my sister, so we bought tickets last December. I've always been pretty vocal about my dislike for Trump too. Well, for the first time, I'm worried that, when traveling to the US, some overzealous TSA agent could ask me to get access to my social media accounts, and that I could be refused entry, or even get sent to one of those wonderful privately owned jails; you know, for lèse-majesté. I reckon that the risk is too little to warrant us canceling our trip, but honestly, if I didn't have my tickets already, I would probably not have bought them now.

This is the craziest timeline.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by ta1243 »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #29
aiisahik wrote: post #13

Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…

I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. I'd be interested in alternate viewpoints since I may be in a bleeding-heart, empathetic, progressive, consequence-considering news bubble. My reasoning is t…

The bigger debate I see is if it's worse for the US or worse for the rest of the world. The consensus is it's awful for everyone, apart from a few environmentalists that are looking forward to the reduce carbon emissions from a great depression.

I think the consensus is that if the rest of the world grows a spine it will emerge far stronger and the US a weaker state to before - akin to change the British Empire post ww2 compared with before, probably with the same glee they saw the British Empire falling.

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