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Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Post by Tsukiortu »

gabereiser wrote: post #190
jrockway wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are probably a large number of HN readers that have weathered the dotcom bust, the 2008 financial crisis, and the 2022 financial crisis. If you were born 1980-ish and you haven't been laid off 3 times, congrats!

This, I've been laid off about 6 times, only once because of my own accord (and I freely admit my fault there). I've left a company 2x that count. I started my career in 1999. What a year to start...

I started in 2020 :) officially. I technically did side things throughout HS, but officially looked for jobs in 2020. Was pretty miserable.

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Post by [deleted] »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #220
tester756 wrote: post #201

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Discord had small engineering team and they outperformed Teams, Google's VoIPs, Skype, Ventrilo, TeamSpeak, Zoom

They've been pretty adamant about not chasing after business/enterprise sales and I bet this is a big reason why. Enterprise pays the big bucks but also has way higher demands from support, higher expectations about downtime, and all the third party integration requests. It has to integrate with Jira, it has to integrate with Google Calendar, it has to integrate with this niche service that changes their API every mo…

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Post by deathanatos »

ShamelessC wrote: post #184
ArchOversight wrote: post #52

This is somewhat meta, but linking to an instagram post is terrible, I get immediately redirected to a login page and can't even see the content on Instagram. I do not have an instagram account, nor do I want to create one just to see this. Was there no better place to link to?

This happens more and more when I visit Twitter now, too. _Really_ annoying and I have zero intention of creating an account on either of those sites.

With Twitter, I find you can click the log in button, and then there is an X to dismiss the modal with, which then lets you read the page. (And this is absolutely annoying, terrible UX, and I wish to God people would stop putting things on Twitter.)

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Post by kube-system »

phpisthebest wrote: post #205
r00fus wrote: post #155

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This viewpoint seems very domain/market dependent. Retail usually explodes during winter months, for example.

Yes replace your likely 6-figure dev job with a $15/hr job stocking the shelves at walmart...

Walmart has 943 software engineering positions open right now.

They're making more than $15/hr: https://www.levels.fyi/companies/walmart-global-tech/salarie...

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Post by smm11 »

jrockway wrote: post #163
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #133

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> I've been survived a few layoffs that work this way. How many times have you been laid off?!

There are probably a large number of HN readers that have weathered the dotcom bust, the 2008 financial crisis, and the 2022 financial crisis. If you were born 1980-ish and you haven't been laid off 3 times, congrats!

Yeah, 5 or 6 times. Happy to be, right now, a one-person IT department at a "small" company. My way is the way.

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Post by phpisthebest »

quux wrote: post #218
phpisthebest wrote: post #197

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WARN Act is federal law not CA Law. I highlight this because there is a belief that only CA has employment protections laws, and while CA does have more of these; other parts of the US also have employment protection laws often times not really that much different than CA

I think WARN is 60 days at the federal level and some states like CA and NY extend it to 90 days.

Both CA and Federal is 60 days, the main difference is CA requires employers with over 75 employee's federal is 100, and CA includes Part Time employees in the count Federal is Full Time workers only

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Post by smm11 »

cafed00d wrote: post #139
unity1001 wrote: post #89

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I agree. Tech companies should never really break off with former employees. Any former employee is a future potential employee that you can re-recruit when the time comes. Also, talent is difficult to find. Which makes people the center. Whatever you build, you will build it with people. So you need people. Be them new employees, be them former employees.

> Any former employee is a future potential employee that you can re-recruit when the time comes Not only that, all former employees are de-facto "background check references" / "evagenlists" / "detractors" of your company. Forever! (well, not exactly forever... but close enough) I can't recall a single year over the last 10 years where younger engineers, cousins, nephews or friends have asked me about the 2 companie…

Seems Amazon needs to be careful about this, too.

https://retailwire.com/discussion/there-might-soon-be-no-one...

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Post by pastor_bob »

lxe wrote: post #93

Every SV company: 1. Start a company that does a thing well 2. Hire enough people to do the thing well 3. For some reason, hire more and more people to do more and more random things 4. Hire more managers who hire even more people 5. You are now a complicated mess and can't get anything done 6. Run out of money 7. Fire people and write a sad post. Continue to collect hefty CEO salary. Why not just stop at 2?

Patreon is/was clearly trying to become an all-in-one platform to justify their increasingly large cut (like 15% now). Stopping at 2 doesn't achieve that.
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