The pandemic is over and so are most remote "jobs" that people started doing on Onlyfans, Patreon, etc. a couple years ago.
If you knew how much some of those people who are doing 'remote jobs' on Only Fans, Patreon now...
Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff
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#52This is somewhat meta, but linking to an instagram post is terrible, I get immediately redirected to a login page and can't even see the content on Instagram. I do not have an instagram account, nor do I want to create one just to see this.
Was there no better place to link to?
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#53This bit from the employee announcement about how they're handling equity vesting [1] is worth highlighting as a pretty classy move, all things considered:
> We’re waiving the one-year equity vesting cliff for all departing employees so that everyone has an opportunity to be a shareholder, regardless of your tenure. [...] All departing teammates will qualify for an extended option exercise period of 5 years, and we have extended it to 7 years in regions where we are legally able.
It must be jarring to be on the receiving end of a layoff. In the grand scheme of things, a laid-off employee surely has bigger things to worry about... but I still think what they did here with the equity, especially the option exercise period, is a nice touch. Not many companies do this sort of thing, but they should.
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#54A blog post was done other than Instagram: https://blog.patreon.com/a-note-from-jack "but as the world began recovering from the pandemic and enduring a broader economic slowdown, that plan is no longer the right path forward for Patreon" So basically, they overhired to meet demands during Pandemic and now as less people are using the platform (??), there is no need for the 17% of people. Interesting.
Let's change the HN post to link to this, it is much more informative.
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#55What does “taking full responsibility” even mean? Like people lose their livelihood and you can get away with “I take full responsibility”. Taking full responsibility mean taking a pay cut or stepping down or basically taking consequences for yourself first before others have to.
The main significance here is "please hire the people we're letting go as if they were normal Patreon employees you'd want to poach; they weren't let go for performance or other individual reasons".
They seem to have contracted a placement company to do that.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your quoting suggests that you think what people on onlyfans and patreon do aren't "real jobs", but in fact to succeed in those spaces needs very hard work.
Digging a big hole then filling it back in is "very hard work" too but that doesn't make it a real job.
And yet, the Hoover Dam was a job very well done.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your quoting suggests that you think what people on onlyfans and patreon do aren't "real jobs", but in fact to succeed in those spaces needs very hard work.
> but in fact to succeed in those spaces needs very hard work. But that doesn't make it a job. You could do hard work in moving a mountain but that's not a job. Needless to say, earning money off of your looks (something you didn't work hard to gain in the first place) doesn't qualify as hard-working job.
What a very bizarre definition of a job
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#58What does “taking full responsibility” even mean? Like people lose their livelihood and you can get away with “I take full responsibility”. Taking full responsibility mean taking a pay cut or stepping down or basically taking consequences for yourself first before others have to.
> What does “taking full responsibility” even mean?
It means "I'm not blaming anyone else for this". Which might not mean much but it's probably better than the alternatives.
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#59A blog post was done other than Instagram: https://blog.patreon.com/a-note-from-jack "but as the world began recovering from the pandemic and enduring a broader economic slowdown, that plan is no longer the right path forward for Patreon" So basically, they overhired to meet demands during Pandemic and now as less people are using the platform (??), there is no need for the 17% of people. Interesting.
> So basically, they overhired to meet demands during Pandemic
Everybody did, even anticipating that the move to online economy would slow down after the pandemic.
But nobody predicted the Ukraine war, sanctions, and the economic effect those sanctions made back in the West.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd say something like people are actually willing to pay the average or even the worst job-doer something resembling a living wage. If the stats from things like Patreon are to believed (and filtering out the "dead weight" of creators who don't post or have given up without closing their account) there's a serious "top 1% of creators make XX% of the revenue" problem. Which means that for a small fraction, it's a job…
By that definition, real jobs are doctor, dentist, and software developer. We don't pay the worst in most jobs anything more than the legal minimum.
Yeah, "adds value to the world," "works hard," and "pays well" are radically different metrics.