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Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

#181

What does “taking full responsibility” even mean? Like people lose their livelihood and you can get away with “I take full responsibility”. Taking full responsibility mean taking a pay cut or stepping down or basically taking consequences for yourself first before others have to.

If every CEO would be sanctionned for every situations no one would want to be CEO.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

#182

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Recruiters would fill that gap readily enough.

My comment comes directly from my experience in the past as a recruiter. We saw a 60%+ downturn in the hiring market From Nov 15 - Dec 31 regardless of how the hiring market was performing in general, and then they would spring back to life after Jan 1 when everyone was back in the office. It takes more than a hiring manager to hire employees. The slowdown comes from all the moving parts who need to be in place in or…

A lot of business in general tends to slow down during the last few weeks of the year. It's sector-dependent, somewhat, but just things like getting approvals from or meetings with people who are 'out' for the holidays impacts even well-intentioned orgs from moving at 'regular' speed when it comes to making hires or signing business deals or what not. It's not a 'negative' viewpoint so much as 'realistic'.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Nobody looks like they are going to lose their livelihood over this: https://blog.patreon.com/a-note-from-jack 3 months' of pay + longer depending on tenure at the company. Healthcare until the end of the year. Mental care up to 6 months. They contracted a placement company to place the laid off staff to other companies in the sector. A lot of those people will already get hooked up by a company within a week or so,…

> Nobody looks like they are going to lose their livelihood over this We don’t know everyone’s unique situation, even if they did go beyond what most companies do.

> We don’t know everyone’s unique situation

Those who are hired to Patreon and similar companies arent people who would end up unemployed if they are laid off. Those people already have to turn down recruiters who try to poach them every week.

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#184

This is somewhat meta, but linking to an instagram post is terrible, I get immediately redirected to a login page and can't even see the content on Instagram. I do not have an instagram account, nor do I want to create one just to see this. Was there no better place to link to?

This happens more and more when I visit Twitter now, too. _Really_ annoying and I have zero intention of creating an account on either of those sites.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

#185

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Who are those competitors? The subject company is tho only one I know of like this. But I am not really active in the creative space so I'm ignorant.

Subscribestar, which I'm much more of a fan of since they have more common sense rules around NSFW art.

Common sense rules == completely banning all NSFW work?

https://www.subscribestar.com/prohibited_content

I'm all for having some SFW platforms, but let's not pretend that there isn't a dramatic, dramatic demand for NSFW content, and that banning it is nothing short of prudish.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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He said the same thing last year lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV-3GgU6rlo It seems to be what most CEO are saying lately.

It's like people didn't read the statement at all. He clearly says they're going to invest more into engineering and some other shit... so it's not about money. They're going to spend more fucking money. This sounds like a bunch of people got their jobs automated away through algorithms or intelligent systems or just whatever innovation you wanna chalk it up to, and they redundant to the company, so they gotta go. Th…

Forget about CEO, could you even be a competent manager if that's how you think?

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What would non-“meaningless virtue signaling” look like to you? This seems quite decent as far as these things go.

He quits / pay cut. Something where his actions affect him

We don't know that he hasn't taken a pay cut. Posting about it might just come across as self-serving, but then not posting about it makes it seem like he's not doing it. Lose-lose, it seems.

And... I suspect whatever he's doing is also affecting him emotionally/mentally, and... to some extent career-wise. Taking these sorts of public steps may make it harder to be entrusted to CEO someplace else in future. Given patreon specifically, I doubt he's planning to leave and go CEO someplace else, but overall, there's no easy outs in scenarios like this. He'll be getting second-guessed and pilloried regardless of what steps he takes.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

#189

This is somewhat meta, but linking to an instagram post is terrible, I get immediately redirected to a login page and can't even see the content on Instagram. I do not have an instagram account, nor do I want to create one just to see this. Was there no better place to link to?

This happens more and more when I visit Twitter now, too. _Really_ annoying and I have zero intention of creating an account on either of those sites.

Sometimes I click a twitter link on a devices I don't want to login to (work machine). I ended up creating a second account for this exact reason, so annoying.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

#190

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> I've been survived a few layoffs that work this way. How many times have you been laid off?!

There are probably a large number of HN readers that have weathered the dotcom bust, the 2008 financial crisis, and the 2022 financial crisis. If you were born 1980-ish and you haven't been laid off 3 times, congrats!

This, I've been laid off about 6 times, only once because of my own accord (and I freely admit my fault there). I've left a company 2x that count. I started my career in 1999. What a year to start...
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