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If overreaction is the problem, do you not think that letting the pandemic get worse, before we act, will trigger an even bigger overreaction?
I call it an overreaction precisely because I see no evidence of a really grave pandemic.
Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
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People in the UK have already been panic buying, mostly pasta and toilet roll AFAICT
> mostly pasta Sensible choice all things considered. I think instant noodles are also a pretty good bet, I personally make a noodle soup with vegetables to bring up the nutrition a bit. I would also add frozen vegetables to the list as it keeps for ages and balances out most meals, whilst still being quite good for you.
I like pasta too, but don't eat as much as I used to. Rice is so versatile!
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The united states is going to fare a lot worse. Their president is actively contradicting his own experts and essentially encouraging people to go on spreading the disease. It's going to be a clusterfuck.
People in other countries put too much weight in what the president says, Trump or otherwise, because they don't fully understand that there is an entire system of government that can fully function with or without the president. I won't go so far as to say that the position of the president is a figurehead, but it's been more than a little advisory for several generations. I watch a lot of BBC, NHK, and DW, and see…
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#244Italy is a country of 60M+ people and the 8th largest economy in the world, with a very high national debt and that significantly relies on tourism for its economy. Above and beyond the Coronavirus, this can terribly affect the long-term solvency of the country.
Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
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The problem with this is that a 14 day total economic halt will be devastating. Even assuming all office workers work remote basic social structure will be endangered. The hospitals need to stay open, people need to keep operating water and electricity utilities, food distribution needs to continue as many do not have 14 days of stock at home. It is not about those dams politician that only care about reelection numb…
> The problem with this is that a 14 day total economic halt will be devastating. Yup, gotta protect that shareholder value! sigh
Truly halting the economy is a catastrophe of it own.
Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
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You can read this report from a doctor there (translated in English on reddit): https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/ff8hns/testimony_... (the original links in Italian are at the bottom of the post if you prefer that)
And long comments full of vivid imagery lile this are EXACTLY why people are dissuaded from making social media posts, exemplified by the poster: "Sorry, but to me, as a doctor, it's not reassuring that the most serious are mainly elderly people with other pathologies." This could not be less helpful or more harmful. There is no useful information (that i got to, couldnt get all the way through). This is not an lette…
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#247What surprises me is the number of deaths in relation to the number of infections. Even higher than Iran where I would expect less effective patient management than in northern Italy. What is your opinion on this?
Only 17% of the Chinese`population is over 60.
We should expect to see a devastating impact on Italy with a much higher CFR.
Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
If overreaction is the problem, do you not think that letting the pandemic get worse, before we act, will trigger an even bigger overreaction?
I call it an overreaction precisely because I see no evidence of a really grave pandemic.
"From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy:"
"Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed."
https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/123714408985596313...
Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
#249Just spoken to an Italian friend, apparently they got a few hours notice before this was enforced (much more kept under-wraps than the previous quarantine of Northern Italy). Expect other Western European Countries to follow this pattern as the number of cases increase [1]. I would specifically be looking at France, Spain and Germany as potential next candidates. If people here haven't already, I would recommend not…
People in the UK have already been panic buying, mostly pasta and toilet roll AFAICT
I believe that the world is mocking a phantom.
Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
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You seem to forget that the ECB is there for the banks, not for the people or their countries.
You seem to forget that [ insert deeply ideological sloganeering / extremely arguable value judgment ].