I was not very surprised that Italy turned out to be the (first?) major hit in Europe. Considering the strong business connections, it had to be either us or Germany. We are, as much of the world, importers from China, but many enterprises here are also, somewhat, strong exporters to China (I can see it from my dayjob as industrial automation SI), and if you factor in the small average size of Italian companies requi…
Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
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Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fortunately, the universe will be able to resolve our dispute rather convincingly, and rather soon, even. I predict that: 1. France will have an exponential explosion of cases. 2. France, after dragging its heels, will eventually undertake similar quarantine measures. 3. Whatever economic damage that early mitigation would have caused will be inflicted multi-fold, as the country reacts too late. 4. Those same doctors…
1. Agree 2. Possibly, I don't think Macron is immune to over-reaction 3. The economic damage is the damage caused by the reaction, not by the virus itself 4. I am not talking about some rural generalist. These are infectious diseases specialists, who from what I can tell publish in the likes of the New England, I give them more credit on that topic than the average TV anchor or newspaper editor
Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
#193I was not very surprised that Italy turned out to be the (first?) major hit in Europe. Considering the strong business connections, it had to be either us or Germany. We are, as much of the world, importers from China, but many enterprises here are also, somewhat, strong exporters to China (I can see it from my dayjob as industrial automation SI), and if you factor in the small average size of Italian companies requi…
> I was not very surprised that Italy turned out to be the (first?) major hit in Europe. Considering the strong business connection Just be honest and say that it did happen from tourism. It's ok to say that moron. You so full of shit it's unreal. If what you said was true, America would be dead my by now. Hahah I'll pull myself. That is more truth than your words.
Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
#194I was not very surprised that Italy turned out to be the (first?) major hit in Europe. Considering the strong business connections, it had to be either us or Germany. We are, as much of the world, importers from China, but many enterprises here are also, somewhat, strong exporters to China (I can see it from my dayjob as industrial automation SI), and if you factor in the small average size of Italian companies requi…
> I was not very surprised that Italy turned out to be the (first?) major hit in Europe. Considering the strong business connection Just be honest and say that it did happen from tourism. It's ok to say that moron. You so full of shit it's unreal. If what you said was true, America would be dead my by now. Hahah I'll pull myself. That is more truth than your words.
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Are you concerned about the news out of Bergamo?
I am. My wife is a MD, not in Bergamo, though, but the news are quite worrying :-(
> very few actual doctors around, nurses stepping up, orderlies assisting nurses with basics.
Should probably text that lad
Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
#196Italy is a country of 60M+ people and the 8th largest economy in the world, with a very high national debt and that significantly relies on tourism for its economy. Above and beyond the Coronavirus, this can terribly affect the long-term solvency of the country.
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#197So this is awaiting all countries, in all likelihood? I mean what's the difference between Italy and Switzerland? Or Germany? Or the United States?
The united states is going to fare a lot worse. Their president is actively contradicting his own experts and essentially encouraging people to go on spreading the disease. It's going to be a clusterfuck.
I won't go so far as to say that the position of the president is a figurehead, but it's been more than a little advisory for several generations.
I watch a lot of BBC, NHK, and DW, and see it all the time. I don't blame the foreign journalists. If you're an overseas news organization working in America, of course the president is going to be fully staffed. But few orgs go much beyond that. Because of this, the European view of how America works is very simplified.
Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
#198I was not very surprised that Italy turned out to be the (first?) major hit in Europe. Considering the strong business connections, it had to be either us or Germany. We are, as much of the world, importers from China, but many enterprises here are also, somewhat, strong exporters to China (I can see it from my dayjob as industrial automation SI), and if you factor in the small average size of Italian companies requi…
I can appreciate this, I am one good half Italian, I have old family locked up in Modena. I love Italy, I consider it home, but I will argue against the opinion. And that is what it is. An opinion. Listen, forget China, forget their words, their actions are fucking insane. In Modena, the same thing is happening, we are all in glass houses. Italy has been praised for their action. Even from the WHO, myself included wi…
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I have been reviewing the situation with a colleague of mine, and we have now realized that the new measures are not enough. It makes no sense to allow burger king or any bar to stay open util 6 p.m. And it makes no sense to allow to go to work for any undeferrable (or also deferrable) reason. The only effective measure seems logically to be quarantine, and for me and my family (2+2), from tomorrow afternoon quaranti…
The problem with this is that a 14 day total economic halt will be devastating. Even assuming all office workers work remote basic social structure will be endangered. The hospitals need to stay open, people need to keep operating water and electricity utilities, food distribution needs to continue as many do not have 14 days of stock at home. It is not about those dams politician that only care about reelection numb…
Yup, gotta protect that shareholder value! sigh
Re: Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures to the entire country
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I am. My wife is a MD, not in Bergamo, though, but the news are quite worrying :-(
You're wife is an MD and you're worried about the news. Make sure you tell us all where your wife is so we can actually avoid her. > very few actual doctors around, nurses stepping up, orderlies assisting nurses with basics. Should probably text that lad