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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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It's a shame but I feel like the majority of gamers won't care. They'll either be ignorant of this or they'll just shrug and continue playing. I boycotted Activision and by proxy Blizzard when Activision acquired them a long time ago but their continuing success shows I'm part of an extremely tiny minority.

> I feel like the majority of gamers won't care The simultaneity of the NBA and now Blizzard so publicly siding with Beijing may elevate this out of the realm of commercial issues (subject to boycotts) into a political one.

It should do. The West needs to decide whether it is going to stand for China being able to silence criticism of it in the West, or not.

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South Park is spot on this season. You could say they are good with predictions, but I think they just gave different perspective to something that already has been happening (episodes on China censorship)

South Park were the sellouts that paved the way for all of this.... but around 8 years ago they decided that money was more important than their principles... And here we are. > money was more important than their principles BTW that's really been the core principle. The US citizens lost their game of chicken with the govt.

what happened 8 years ago?

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I really don't like how this is made out as "China clamping down on Blizzard", just like it was framed when Ubisoft tried to get a lower age-rating for Rainbow Six Siege and claimed that was what China demanded for their market. Blizzard has been suspending plenty of pro players in plenty of their games for all kinds of questionable, and not so questionable reasons. And because Blizzard is a private company, offering…

> just like it was framed when Ubisoft tried to get a lower age-rating for Rainbow Six Siege and claimed that was what China demanded for their market.

Ubisoft straight up said the changes were for compliance for their plans to expand into Asia. With not a single mention of a lower age-rating. [1]

> We are currently working towards preparing Rainbow Six Siege for expansion into Asian territories. As such, there will be some adjustments made to our maps and icons to ensure compliance.

> In addition, we can guarantee that any future changes are aligned with the global regulations we are working towards.

While I don't agree with the gamer rage it caused, the changes were made unambiguously for release in China.

1. https://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/en-us/news/152-337194-16/...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you just publish garbage instead?

You could but everybody uses version pinning in production, right?

If only npm's version pinning actually version pinned without idiotic subrules. package-lock.json is just one massive lie.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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It's a shame but I feel like the majority of gamers won't care. They'll either be ignorant of this or they'll just shrug and continue playing. I boycotted Activision and by proxy Blizzard when Activision acquired them a long time ago but their continuing success shows I'm part of an extremely tiny minority.

At this point it goes far beyond just gamers. From the NBA to Google, this effect is everywhere. To be explicit, the effect is U.S. firms letting China dictate what they do or do not care about on a global political scale.

If a game publisher can (whether directly or not) nuke the job of a journalist for a review and get away with it, I'm not surprised at all when a government does something along these lines.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/21/gaming-the-...

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post #139

Then we have to boycott Hearthstone. While the current case is neither surprising nor substantially important, it is important because of principle. Blizzard is not responsible for what players say in interviews. In our society, it still matters that people can tolerate other opinions. The Chinese government tries to make it a new normal that entire people can have their "feelings hurt" (what?) by mere non-insulting…

> Then we have to boycott Hearthstone. While the current case is neither surprising nor substantially important, it is important because of principle. Boycott the Hearthstone pro players/streamers. Blizzard won't notice the money from a couple hundred people going away. The streamers/pros on the other hand will most certainly notice even a couple of people going away and will leave Hearthstone to rot. Once the pros l…

> Once the pros leave Hearthstone for another game, Hearthstone will die. THAT will get Blizzard's attention.

Why would Blizzard care, if they are still making money on the other games people left Heathstone for?

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Six Corporations control 90% of the media in America Totally incomparable. America has the First Amendment. Its government and corporations can be held accountable in courts. Any rando has the capacity to pine off about anything on Twitter. Meanwhile China boasts a centralised bureaucracy literally censoring Winnie the Pooh images because its dictator doesn’t like his resemblance. Yes, America has a media ownership…

As has been spammed in many threads about hate speech type censorship before, only the government is legally accountable to the First Amendment, private businesses and that corporate personhood BS can use their own freedom of speech to censor whoever they want on their platforms.

Yes because there is only one government for any given piece of land. Fortunately for you, there are many private businesses to choose from. You can even start your own if you like.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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post #139

Then we have to boycott Hearthstone. While the current case is neither surprising nor substantially important, it is important because of principle. Blizzard is not responsible for what players say in interviews. In our society, it still matters that people can tolerate other opinions. The Chinese government tries to make it a new normal that entire people can have their "feelings hurt" (what?) by mere non-insulting…

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