This is similar to Abine's Blur service, which provides a throwaway phone number, and (seemingly) infinite throwaway emails addresses that can forward to your own personal email address.
Apple Sign In
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#242Does this effectively kill the ability for services to have sign-up promo codes?
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#243This is a great idea but it kind of falls short. Elaboration with example: LinkedIn is notarious for swiping up any data points that it can find. Your carrier, your GPS location, etc. As long as there are two or more data points to successfully tie you to that id, it's already game over. It'll just be added to your "targeted advertising profile" and, given the wrong company getting ahold of it (looking at you, Equifa…
Apple doesn't allow you access the IMEI or even Mac address. And they announced at WWDC today that they're locking down people scanning for wifi access points + bluetooth beacons to determine location also.
The purpose of this isn't to make you anonymous. It's just to make sign on a little simpler and for apps that you think might not be super trustworthy or apps that don't actually need your email address you can choose to give them this proxied one. Obviously social accounts and other applications that will ask for your real name will know who you are.
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#244This is a huge move. Apple striking at the core of Facebook's play to own your identity, which they had with Facebook Connect but have completely fudged out with countless breaches of user privacy and trust. I used to be the biggest fanboy of facebook connect, but now I have to say: Go Apple.
Apple ID as SSO, iMessage Profile, Memoji, and Apple Pay. Apple is near FB Messenger parity, now that it functions as an account for external services. It's an extremely strong move on Apple's part, especially considering how close to it they have been for a while. They sure like taking their time sometimes.
Sorry how can I get iMessage on my Android phone?
Sensible people do not deliberately handcuff themselves to trillion dollar megacorps and then throw away the key.
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#245This is a huge move. Apple striking at the core of Facebook's play to own your identity, which they had with Facebook Connect but have completely fudged out with countless breaches of user privacy and trust. I used to be the biggest fanboy of facebook connect, but now I have to say: Go Apple.
Apple ID as SSO, iMessage Profile, Memoji, and Apple Pay. Apple is near FB Messenger parity, now that it functions as an account for external services. It's an extremely strong move on Apple's part, especially considering how close to it they have been for a while. They sure like taking their time sometimes.
They're close to parity with a giant exception that it's not available to the overwhelming majority of Facebook users.
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple ID as SSO, iMessage Profile, Memoji, and Apple Pay. Apple is near FB Messenger parity, now that it functions as an account for external services. It's an extremely strong move on Apple's part, especially considering how close to it they have been for a while. They sure like taking their time sometimes.
True. Apple definitely playing the long game here, effectively. When iMessage came out I totally didn't see it ever becoming a viable identity play. But with all these privacy concerns, now it feels like the one to beat.
How can I access iMessage from my Linux laptop?
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
Problem is, today I agree, 10 years ago it would've been a tossup, and 5 years from now, who knows? These "trusted central broker" privacy models are nicer than giving your info to dozens of individual actors (when you trust that central broker more than anyone else), but they also become a single point of attack/failure.
You will never be able to know the future, you can only make decisions based on information available now.
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#248Emails from companies already have a unsubscribe button. So if I unsubscribe they shouldn't send me emails. That is not changing with the new Apple Sign In feature. Emails will still have the unsubscribe feature. The only reason for devs to push for a real email is to sell it to advertisers. They are not deleting the email once I unsubscribe. So giving them an ankoymized email is good. I hope this succeeds.
Many spam emails I get these days from companies say things like "Unsubscribe from this list" so for example I have to unsubscribe from their "Daily Digest", "Weekly Digest", "Recommendations", etc. all one at a time.
And there's no guarantee how many of those "lists" you are on with some softwares. You might have a one-click unsubscribe, but you just one-click unsubscribed from the first of 100 lists you were placed on for that company.
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#249Isn't there a flaw? What does stop service provider/application vendor from banning this relay domain and force users to provide real email address for data-mining purposes aka "ensuring that service/app will work"? Unless of course that Apple would deal with those who would go for this
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#250Disposable, anonymous email forwarding is a massive step forward for privacy. I know we've all been doing it for a while, but this on a consumer level is fantastic.
I've been trying for some time to explain to my friends and family how a unique email/password + 2FA strategy is the best thing to do and how it would allow them to cut one in case it gets leaked. I guess I will just tell everybody about "Sign in with Apple" now, it will be easier.
Will you also tell that to your Android or Windows using friends?