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Re: Apple Sign In

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Disposable, anonymous email forwarding is a massive step forward for privacy. I know we've all been doing it for a while, but this on a consumer level is fantastic.

I agree that it is great. I'm not sure how we convince people to not signup on sites that don't offer this SSO option. I've always struggled with the question of 'How do we convince people to care about privacy when they post their location and meal to a public social media every hour?'.

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Re: Apple Sign In

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Disposable, anonymous email forwarding is a massive step forward for privacy. I know we've all been doing it for a while, but this on a consumer level is fantastic.

I agree that it is great. I'm not sure how we convince people to not signup on sites that don't offer this SSO option. I've always struggled with the question of 'How do we convince people to care about privacy when they post their location and meal to a public social media every hour?'.

Convenience. This feature is good even if you don’t care about privacy.

Password management is a big problem for non-technical users. Even for people who don’t know/care about security and reuse the same password everywhere, it presents a huge issue when their preferred password doesn’t meet the website’s requirements. They are then forced to make one up which they’ll never remember so it’s gonna be a headache down the line when they need to sign in again.

When they learn that the magic “Sign in with Apple” button allows them to avoid all that, they’ll want it even if they don’t care about privacy.

Re: Apple Sign In

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the super annoying "can i help you?" popup after 10s is revolting. i closed the tab immediately without learning more. it's cheesy, pushy, and seems antithetical to a service that offers privacy. i recommend you turn that thing off.

Thanks for the feedback, I’ll try to tone that thing down a bit. The thing is, some people LOVE the chat widget. Especially for those users who don’t want reveal their real email address but have a quick question. I’ve had at least 3x more chats on there than support emails.

Chat is awesome. Personally I love it. You get to talk to someone in real time. What's not to like about it. I'm not sure why the OP is so revolted by it. Maybe remove the sound but leave the popup and chat.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Google doesn't limit who can login by their device manufacturer, but the supposed privacy focused company does?

Yep, the privacy focused company makes money selling hardware rather than ads.

So, the privacy draw is just another gimmick to them, and not a supposed part of their DNA?

Re: Apple Sign In

#185
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Disposable, anonymous email forwarding is a massive step forward for privacy. I know we've all been doing it for a while, but this on a consumer level is fantastic.

In case anyone needs something similar today: Outlook already allows you to create ephemeral top-level aliases, i.e. XXXX@outlook.com. You can use this to sign up, then delete the alias. It can't be traced back to your account and nobody blocks @outlook.com. https://account.live.com/names/Manage (not to take away from this announcement at all; just to provide some context. it's an often overlooked feature which peopl…

Apple also lets you do this with your Me/iCloud address as well.

Re: Apple Sign In

#186
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Companies already massive dislike fake/temporary emails. Go find a throwaway email service and you'll find many many websites blacklist them. I'll actually be angry if Apple succeeds, because it'll just mean I can only have private email address as an apple customer and not anywhere else. Many companies might make an exception for Apple, but not anyone else.

This is neither a fake nor a temporary email. It is unique, made specific by the combination of the user's appleid and the target app/website, and permanent in that it will remain the same. The ability of the user to automatically discard/block content sent to the email address doesn't change this, as it's no different other than (probably) more convenient than setting up a bunch of spam filter rules for those "servi…

It says in the article that it's a 'unique, random address', so I don't know where you're getting the 'combination of the user's appleid and the target app/website' from. The purpose of the service is the same as other temporary email services, to anonymize signing up for services by providing a fake email.

Re: Apple Sign In

#187
So what if in the future apple decides they dont want to allow your website to use it anymore (because e.g. it violates their UX guidelines)?

Re: Apple Sign In

#188
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Disposable, anonymous email forwarding is a massive step forward for privacy. I know we've all been doing it for a while, but this on a consumer level is fantastic.

My first thought was: Bye bye mailinator.com

> My first thought was: Bye bye mailinator.com

Mailinator can be pretty hard to use, since so many sites can detect the addresses and block their use.

I've pretty much given up on it, and use Fastmail's very easy aliasing features with my domain. It's not quite as private, but it's a lot more reliable.

Re: Apple Sign In

#190
Emails from companies already have a unsubscribe button. So if I unsubscribe they shouldn't send me emails. That is not changing with the new Apple Sign In feature. Emails will still have the unsubscribe feature. The only reason for devs to push for a real email is to sell it to advertisers. They are not deleting the email once I unsubscribe. So giving them an ankoymized email is good. I hope this succeeds.
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