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Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by albertgoeswoof » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:01 PM UTC

golem14 wrote: post #102

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don’t use apple, I just built this as a stand-alone product: https://idbloc.co

From the web page, I cannot tell what pricing is going to be - looks like you go out of your way to not scare off potential users. I can't find pricing information at all via Google searches, either. That's something I really dislike. Perhaps it's a necessary evil.

It’s at the bottom of the landing page: https://idbloc.co/#pricing

The goal is to explain the concept ahead of the pricing as I think it’s quite novel to most users.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by ben509 » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:02 PM UTC

driverdan wrote: post #66

empath75 wrote: post #8

Finally an excuse to delete my Facebook account completely. SSO was the only reason I was still using it. I do wonder how many sites will actually implement it.

Why do you need SSO? Password managers make it easy to manage accounts.

PMs don't make it easy, they make it reliable and central. The default password generation usually doesn't work, and a web form doesn't capture everything, but I'm never clicking and guessing even when I haven't used an account in years.

But SSO wins on mobile, because the PM is clunky even with a custom keyboard. Even then, I keep a dummy entry in my PM just so I'm tracking it.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by taytus » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:02 PM UTC

mjlee wrote: post #3

Disposable, anonymous email forwarding is a massive step forward for privacy. I know we've all been doing it for a while, but this on a consumer level is fantastic.

My first thought was: Bye bye mailinator.com

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by Krasnol » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:02 PM UTC

beat wrote: post #97

prdonahue wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who do you trust more _not_ to do sketchy stuff with your data, Apple or Google? For me it's unequivocally Apple.

The company that did not deliberately remove the phrase "Don't be evil" from their values.

How could they if they never had it in the first place? ;)

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by nothrabannosir » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:02 PM UTC

mjlee wrote: post #3

Disposable, anonymous email forwarding is a massive step forward for privacy. I know we've all been doing it for a while, but this on a consumer level is fantastic.

In case anyone needs something similar today: Outlook already allows you to create ephemeral top-level aliases, i.e. XXXX@outlook.com. You can use this to sign up, then delete the alias. It can't be traced back to your account and nobody blocks @outlook.com.

https://account.live.com/names/Manage

(not to take away from this announcement at all; just to provide some context. it's an often overlooked feature which people here might appreciate.)

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by mcphage » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:02 PM UTC

kartikeye wrote: post #63

Privacy BS. This is their way of tracking you around the web.

If they needed to do this, they already control the browser.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by jiveturkey » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:03 PM UTC

anbop wrote: post #92

mjlee wrote: post #3

Disposable, anonymous email forwarding is a massive step forward for privacy. I know we've all been doing it for a while, but this on a consumer level is fantastic.

And being done by Apple, most services can’t just reject these the way they do with Mailinator addresses, since it would be throwing away a giant chunk of their revenue. Apps with huge consumer demand like Uber or Facebook could get away with it, but not the vast majority of apps.

I think this will be proven wrong. Do you think that the folks using Mailinator are strictly non-Apple users? As an Apple user that signs up with a mailinator ID, if rejected I either move on or use a more palatable address, as the case may be depending on my desire to use that service. The same will hold true for any private appleid address.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by jiveturkey » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:04 PM UTC

How will this be different that anon.penet.fi? (Besides the data being held in the US, where it is very much in reach of the authorities; Apple isn't going to shut down the service to uphold some privacy principle vs a government authority.)

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by TomVDB » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:05 PM UTC

y4mi wrote: post #100

prdonahue wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who do you trust more _not_ to do sketchy stuff with your data, Apple or Google? For me it's unequivocally Apple.

Neither would be the only sane choice. Multinational corporations will always screw individual customers for profit. And the issue with trusting any entity with data isn't really what it will do with it today. The bigger problem is what the entity will do with it tomorrow - under new leadership. It might also be interesting to know that Apple is also in the business of selling "relevant adds". Its a tiny amount if co…

The question was not "who do you trust", but "who do you trust more".

Given that Google's business model depends on data sharing whereas Apple has made privacy one of their core features, I think the answer has to be Apple, even if you don't trust them entirely.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by mrb » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:05 PM UTC

I love that TC chose a picture of "fc452bd5ea@privaterelay.appleid.com" to illustrate the article. When was the last time you saw a service that could be described by a single "word"?