Newest MacBook Pro is the first MacBook not recommended by Consumer Reports

Post by amluto » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 6:17 PM UTC

0x09 wrote: post #155

spilk wrote: post #135

Honestly to me the worst thing about the new MacBook Pro isn't that there are no legacy ports on it or that the battery may be smaller, it's that the new all-things-for-all-people ports it has are confusing. The ports are all Thunderbolt 3 ports, which I believe by definition means they are USB 3.1 ports as well. But some devices out in the world have USB-C ports that are not Thunderbolt 3 compatible. No longer can y…

I've gotten myself into a stupid situation where I have purchased something like 4 adapters that don't accomplish what I thought they would when I bought them. USB-C to DisplayPort -> DisplayPort to HDMI -> Monitor - doesn't work USB-C to DisplayPort -> DisplayPort to DVI-D -> Monitor - doesn't work USB-C to Ethernet - doesn't work I'm actually planning to just go to Best Buy today and try to find anything that will…

Post by davidf18 » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 6:17 PM UTC

mmjaa wrote: post #91

jmnicolas wrote: post #24

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You don't address the point of the article which is battery life though.

I've been getting 6 - 7 hours average runtime on a full charge for the last few weeks, but I'm working (Xcode, vim and builds) and I don't think I have a representative work load - but I do note that this laptop 'seems' to be as long-lived without the charging cable as my previous machine. I suppose I'll pay more attention over the next week and see if its as bad as everyone makes it out to be - so far, I haven't eve…

Post by DoodleBuggy » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 6:19 PM UTC

Post by phil21 » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 6:20 PM UTC

krinchan wrote: post #154

wyager wrote: post #150

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Putting everything and the kitchen sink into USB-C was a mistake. I already have a horrible mess of weird cables that aren't interoperable, don't support Superspeed, have current limits, etc. USB should be one thing and one thing only; a Universal Serial Bus. Can you send video over a serial connection? Great, let's do that instead of using the same physical connector for 85 different incompatible video cable designs…

Even better, try finding a laptop that will run DisplayPort alternate mode over the USB-C port. EDIT: Or HDMI for that matter.

Post by gumby » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 6:21 PM UTC

grandalf wrote: post #175

krinchan wrote: post #151

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Actually it isn't precisely Apple's fault. It's the USB-IFs fault. USB 3.1 in general is a mess. The spec allows for Alternate Modes, where the port is hardwired on the Motherboard to be able to be switched to deliver DisplayPort, HDMI, MHL, Thunderbolt, and damn near anything else you can figure out how to mux over the port's pins and cheaply demux on the other end of the cable. The best part is no one will actually…

So the alternate modes are required for proper operation? Or will it fall back to a standard mode and still work?