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Good riddance. Twitter shouldn't let itself be a recruiting platform for neo-Nazis and their ilk. This is consistent with the ban on ISIS propaganda accounts, which was also a positive step towards combatting online extremism.
Rejecting a culture seems a little different than wanting to kill people from a culture, but maybe in the social media age speaking out against something is as bad as physical violence, because of the hurt feelings.
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Is it, though? The argument I advance against homosexual marriage proceeds from the legitimate interest of the state in supporting marriage and reproduction. If it helps any, I hardly more often find myself in agreement with conservatives on most issues than with progressives...
>> the legitimate interest of the state in supporting marriage and reproduction. Why is that a legitimate interest of the state?
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>I noticed that liberals had this similar authoritarianness IMO this is what distinguishes a traditional liberal from a a progressive. For me, a liberal is basically libertarian with a belief the state can be used to ensure the rights of citizens are administered evenly. IMO, if someone's actions aren't depriving another of life or liberty, the state doesn't have much standing in regulating that activity. Progressive…
> For example, the trans bathroom thing. I legitimately see both sides on that Really? I don't. It's a weird thing to care so much about. > In some cases (like abortion) conservatives have their heart in the right places Do they? I guess you could argue that cruel laws like the one Pence signed in Illinois are the only recourse they have for what they consider a moral battle. I'm not sure how you can explain away fig…
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> Abortion is another I see both sides on and believe compromise is the best way forward. How would such a compromise look like? > In some cases (like abortion) conservatives have their heart in the right places. Right, but this is already your personal judgement. For example I personally feel that the conservative stance on abortion is cruel and creates more suffering.
> How would such a compromise look like? No-questions-asked contraception. edit: A more radical idea would be to ban abortions but allow the parents to give up the baby at birth as a ward of the state. The expenses would be covered by a new tax.
I'm not a fan of the "alt-right" or a lot of its subculture. I also don't find it particularly "alt", as much as it is "far" right. It is a lot of the ideas that powered the NSDAP enveloped in the language of the Internet and memes, with the targets broadened from Jewry to non-whites in general. However, I'm also not a fan of suspending these accounts for controversial views if they are not harassing people on the Tw…
Agree. The first thing I thought upon reading this was: would Twitter ban an account with the following description: "dedicated to the heritage, identity, and future of people of African descent in the United States, and around the world." Undoubtedly not. The only difference, of course, is s/African/European/g. I'm a liberal, but I feel that if this election has taught us anything, it should be that suppression of "…
The context at the moment is that there are many rabid, racist, some violent, followers of these sites out there who have recently felt validated.
If your gentle website "dedicated to the heritage, identity, and future of people of African descent in the United States, and around the world." had a similar atmosphere of whipped up feeling around it, potentially leading to abuse/violence, I'd expect exactly the same response, or at least the need for response.
Whether the response is correct or not, as you suggest, is another matter, but your comparison doesn't accept the context of current events.
Previously discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12966699 (343 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12971779 (21 comments)
But buried quickly. That first link with 343 comments and over 100 points in an hour was on the third page before it was two hours old.
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Agree. The first thing I thought upon reading this was: would Twitter ban an account with the following description: "dedicated to the heritage, identity, and future of people of African descent in the United States, and around the world." Undoubtedly not. The only difference, of course, is s/African/European/g. I'm a liberal, but I feel that if this election has taught us anything, it should be that suppression of "…
I agree with your conclusion but not the comparison. The context at the moment is that there are many rabid, racist, some violent, followers of these sites out there who have recently felt validated. If your gentle website "dedicated to the heritage, identity, and future of people of African descent in the United States, and around the world." had a similar atmosphere of whipped up feeling around it, potentially lead…
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Surely this entire argument is an artifact of the governments uneccessarry intervention in private and family life. If we remove the governments role in marriage completely then people can decide for themselves what role it should play. Small government is a sensible ethos but never seems to be applied to these conservative hot button issues.
Is it, though? The argument I advance against homosexual marriage proceeds from the legitimate interest of the state in supporting marriage and reproduction. If it helps any, I hardly more often find myself in agreement with conservatives on most issues than with progressives...
I truly believe that by playing host to hateful views over the last 6+ years, sites like Reddit and Twitter have helped to mainstream them and make the "alt right" (Neo-Nazi) movement what it is.