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Re: Suicidal Software Developer

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Post by london1988 »

DanBC wrote: post #29

1) get medical help. This should include a wide range of clinicians - a psychiatrist to diagnose illness and prescribe medication; some kind of psychological therapy (when you're ready); some kind of occupational therapist (to either keep you in work; or rapidly get you back into work). You are in England. This should be both free and high quality, althogh MH services are pushed nationwide and especially in the capit…

Thanks for the advice.

I've gone and registered at my GP and have kicked off this process. I didn't consider that the help I need would be from a range of clinicians, so will need to go and do some research on this.

I'm hoping through a referral I'll be able to setup a recurring session with a therapist.

"It's important to remember that depression can be a fatal illness, and can shorten a person's life. This isn't just through completed suicide, but through poor health caused by self neglect"

This really hits me hard. In an effort to positively move forward I decided just after the breakup that I wanted to lose a stone (14 pounds). -18 pounds later I'm feeling much better but for the last few evenings I've completely been off food.. "poor health caused by self neglect" Is something that I need to be very aware of. Thanks for highlighting it.

Re: Suicidal Software Developer

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Post by london1988 »

rwhitman wrote: post #42

Go find a therapist. Now. Don't wait. Suicidal thoughts are considered an urgent mental health issue so you will probably be covered by health care. Even if you weren't suicidal a psychologist is a great place to air your grievances without judgment. Well worth it.

I've gone ahead and done just that and will hopefully get a referral soon for a professional so that I may "air" my "grievances without judgment". Thanks for the support.

Re: Suicidal Software Developer

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Post by london1988 »

Nursie wrote: post #86

1. Therapy. If you're genuinely suicidal, go see a therapist or even a doctor, RIGHT NOW. 2. So you're in one of the world's most vibrant cities, you've got house-deposit kinda money saved, you're single and depressed. GTFO and travel. Go backpacking somewhere for a few months. If you're young enough (under 30) then get yourself a one-year visa for Australia and spend a few months travelling the east coast, staying a…

Nursie, thanks for the support. I've gone and registered at the GP and hopefully going to get a call to arrange to see a therapist soon. It wasn't easy.

Thankfully I'm under 30 so wouldn't get kicked out of Australia after 3 months (why that restriction is in place seems ludicrous). I've considered travelling but worry that presently that would be escaping my issues. When the time is right though the east coast of Australia sounds pretty awesome. I had never considered it as a location to get lost in so will jot it down. :+1:.

"There's a whole frickin' world out there waiting to be lived in. Fuck Suicide." Made me smile.

Thanks again.

Re: Suicidal Software Developer

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Post by london1988 »

tomorgan wrote: post #2

About the only useful part of this response is: I feel for you. I understand what you're going through, and I'm going to try and convince you to stick with it. The rest of this: well, take it or leave it. Sounds like you've managed to coincide two bad things in one go: a bad place in your career, and a bad place in your relationship. You've ended up with a double-whammy, so it's hit you hard. From (limited) experienc…

Thanks for the kind words Tomorgan. :+1:.

The double-whammy is certainly a good way of putting it. The new job (literally the next working day after the breakup) was specifically tailored on my previous shared vision. So even if it was the best job in the world it was going to be an uphill battle.

The job is "ok". Its good money, the idea and product is not based on fiction. I'm uncertain if its just my outlook on the job at the moment or the job itself. Either way, I take on board your sentiment of it being the one thing I CAN change. Maybe when I'm a little further down the line I'll consider something not solely based on the money?

"There are no shortcuts." Really valid right now. I thought I could muscle my way through this but I can't.

Thanks again.

Re: Suicidal Software Developer

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Post by gobots »

mreiland wrote: post #221
gobots wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed – or more to the point: I wasn't clear in my original statement. I am learning about certain aspects of religion – not learning comparative religion. I am not however "learning atheism" as others have decided to claim in this thread. I stopped believing in god years ago, at that point by definition I was an atheist. I am interested in the origins of religion, the scientific reasons that it exists, and the nega…

By definition you can't learn about religion either because the only thing required for religion is to believe in it. You are misunderstanding his point because it infringes upon how you self-identify. Perspective is weird like that sometimes.

"By definition you can't learn about religion either because the only thing required for religion is to believe in it."

That is a very weak argument. One cannot learn about religion because all you have to do is believe.. and since I don't believe, I can't learn it?

Edit: so there is no proof or evidence needed for religion – you just have to believe. Would you like to buy this rock i have? it keeps tigers away...

Re: Suicidal Software Developer

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Post by gobots »

gress wrote: post #214
gobots wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry I misread your comment earlier in the tone that you were attempting to get an atheist to consider other religions. I believe there is a difference in the aspects of religion I am interested in from what you are describing. I simply am not interested in making a study of the worlds various minor religions, and I know a great deal about the major ones already. I am more interested in the psychological damage that…

You are painting everything connected with religion as if it is fundamentalism.

explain.

Re: Suicidal Software Developer

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Post by gobots »

gress wrote: post #213
gobots wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once again, I have to point out I am an atheist, I'm not learning about atheism. Science != atheism. Reading about the evils of religion != learning atheism.

You are more than an atheist. You are an anti-religionist, regardless of the content of the religion.

What is your point?

Re: Suicidal Software Developer

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Post by gobots »

mreiland wrote: post #222
gobots wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, what? I should avoid labeling myself as an atheist... when I'm an atheist? Why?

Then you deal with the baggage that comes from such a label, and clarifying that you're a 'secular humanist' doesn't give you the right to expect to avoid that baggage.

So a non-believer has less rights than a believer?

Re: Suicidal Software Developer

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Post by Nursie »

london1988 wrote: post #233
Nursie wrote: post #86

1. Therapy. If you're genuinely suicidal, go see a therapist or even a doctor, RIGHT NOW. 2. So you're in one of the world's most vibrant cities, you've got house-deposit kinda money saved, you're single and depressed. GTFO and travel. Go backpacking somewhere for a few months. If you're young enough (under 30) then get yourself a one-year visa for Australia and spend a few months travelling the east coast, staying a…

Nursie, thanks for the support. I've gone and registered at the GP and hopefully going to get a call to arrange to see a therapist soon. It wasn't easy. Thankfully I'm under 30 so wouldn't get kicked out of Australia after 3 months (why that restriction is in place seems ludicrous). I've considered travelling but worry that presently that would be escaping my issues. When the time is right though the east coast of Au…

Sometimes when you escape somewhere for a while your issues seem a lot smaller from over there :)

Either way, good luck with it all, hope you find a way to happiness!

Re: Suicidal Software Developer

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Post by arbitrary »

I feel for you because I understand how killing heartbreaks are. But, please, do not take a negative decision to end your life when you are feeling low. Get help. Reach out to your family, your friends from school, college. Anyone, whom you can speak your heart out with. Even your room mate would do. It will make you feel a lot better. Take a vacation. Go to places you wanted to go before. Look at the positive side of your life. A wonderful life you have in comparison with those millions who have nothing to eat and no future.

Strictly, stop being alone. Stop being in the company of those who make you feel sad. And stop your negative thoughts as many times as they come back.

No need to about talk this at work. Often, people aren't 100% productive at work, and everyone adjusts. Co-workers/employers seldom complain.

Connect with others as much as possible. If you have no one to talk to, you can contact me. I will be happy to be help.

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