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Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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If you're really passionate about serving the best quality coffee, you'll be passionate about the experience around that, and you'll put effort in even if it doesn't pay off. AI-generated art signals that you didn't put effort in, and so aren't passionate about the experience, and so aren't really passionate about the central thing. "At least you tried" is not a high standard, but it's the one that AI art fails.

sure i guess, but some of the best food i've ever eaten was in some cheap chinese restaurant that didnt care at all about the "experience" or w/e ^^

Yea I don’t get the GP/OP sentiment at all.

Some of the best food I ate in places that looked like complete design wrecks. And yes now these places use a lot of really badly made ai art.

The food is still delicious.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #225

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https://xkcd.com/993/ A friend also called this the “Party Cannon effect”, in reference to black metal festival posters. When lavish detail is available at the push of a button, simplicity stands out far more.

That XKCD idea is basically the Swedish Blåvitt product line that existed during the 80s and early 90s.

Germany also has some product lines that have similar brutalist design

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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The loss of personality is real. The most heartbreaking ones I've seen are in schools, or anywhere that children are involved. For example, at my local preschool there was a wall flyer with information about what to bring the swimming pool. It had the most crudely drawn fishes and crabs and seahorses that I had ever seen. It was clear that whoever drew that had no prior experience with anything even remotely resembli…

Also why do they have sea life in it at all, surely that's not something that's meant to be in the pool.

As someone who laps in a pool with fish in it occasionally. It could be true. (google Sydney ocean pools to see what I'm talking about)

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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What's sad is that that AI could make this better. Good food photography is hard. Here's a low effort pass of the photo that they shared https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6a61faba10188191a4991f3042e640c3

which I don't think people would find misleading. Right now it looks pretty "AI" but wouldn't be hard to find a style that works well.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're really passionate about serving the best quality coffee, you'll be passionate about the experience around that, and you'll put effort in even if it doesn't pay off. AI-generated art signals that you didn't put effort in, and so aren't passionate about the experience, and so aren't really passionate about the central thing. "At least you tried" is not a high standard, but it's the one that AI art fails.

I think you're making a lot of assumptions that don't really hold up in reality.

I disagree, but it's also academic. Even if every single one of my assumptions is unfair, they're still being made by me and others. Restaurants need to consider the reputational risk caused by customer perception. There's a whole film about it [1].

[1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382932/

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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What's sad is that that AI could make this better. Good food photography is hard. Here's a low effort pass of the photo that they shared https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6a61faba10188191a4991f3042e640c3 which I don't think people would find misleading. Right now it looks pretty "AI" but wouldn't be hard to find a style that works well.

could you share the prompt? that looks useful!

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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I'm fascinated by how AI poster designs have taken over local advertising in seemingly just the last six months - presumably because ChatGPT Images and Gemini Nano Banana finally got good enough at outputting text without obvious defects in the typography. The posters all look good - much better than their desktop publishing predecessors. And yet they also eat away at the credibility of the event or business for me.…

I was talking to my daughter a few weeks ago about a coffee shop that was opening soon and I said that based on the posters in the window it probably wouldn’t be very good. She didn’t really understand how I could draw that conclusion and I explained that you could tell that they had been stretched to fit the available dimensions in a way that clearly distorted the images and text. And that like… if you’re careless a…

There is a good chance you will be wrong, but it's not like you will actually check whether or not you were wrong. You are assuming that you are correct, and have already come to the conclusion that the coffee shop is not good. But even if it is good, you will not admit that it is good, because then you will have to admit that you were wrong.

Hopefully, your daughter just politely nodded her head, and did not actually listen to you.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #236

What's sad is that that AI could make this better. Good food photography is hard. Here's a low effort pass of the photo that they shared https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6a61faba10188191a4991f3042e640c3 which I don't think people would find misleading. Right now it looks pretty "AI" but wouldn't be hard to find a style that works well.

could you share the prompt? that looks useful!

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a61fc5f-66e8-83ea-bb87-a37a6a942b... (with the photo from the article as the uploaded image)

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #30

I'm fascinated by how AI poster designs have taken over local advertising in seemingly just the last six months - presumably because ChatGPT Images and Gemini Nano Banana finally got good enough at outputting text without obvious defects in the typography. The posters all look good - much better than their desktop publishing predecessors. And yet they also eat away at the credibility of the event or business for me.…

I was talking to my daughter a few weeks ago about a coffee shop that was opening soon and I said that based on the posters in the window it probably wouldn’t be very good. She didn’t really understand how I could draw that conclusion and I explained that you could tell that they had been stretched to fit the available dimensions in a way that clearly distorted the images and text. And that like… if you’re careless a…

I read this quote somewhere: How you do something is how you do everything. I go by this principle in my life. Lately, I have been thinking in how many cases will this be not true.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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This. I said it elsewhere in this thread differently but people want to pretend the options are: 1. Paying a local designer to make a bespoke beautiful poster OR 2. Use AI It's not, the money is often just not there to pay someone. So you get whatever the intern or the owner can slap together in whatever tool they know best (which is rarely the best tool for the job). It's completely understandable that they would re…

> So many people are anti-AI/anti-LLM just because it is AI/LLM, not because it's objectively worse than the alternative. It's tiring. no, it's because the SNR of AI slop is worse than human creations. hamburger: $4.99 S̵u̸p̸e̷r̷s̶l̵o̷p̵ ̸S̶i̴g̸n̷a̴t̸u̷r̵e̵b̷u̷r̶g̵e̸r̶:̶ ̷$̴4̸.̴9̸9̷(̵b̴a̵s̷e̸ ̵c̴o̸n̵f̷i̶g̶u̵r̶a̵t̴i̴o̸n̴)̴ The amount of data hasn't changed - it's presentation. The noise is real. Presenting just the pr…

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