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Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Well at least the peas weren't upside down... https://preview.redd.it/the-peas-are-upside-down-v0-5pwo713b...

looks like every kebab shop menu near me. All offerings crudely cut/pasted/mashed together. 5 near me literally have the same menu with different prices and a colour theme to match their (usually terrible, 3-D font effect from 90's era Corel Draw) Logo. And they were like that BEFORE GenAI got popular!

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Ok, I'll say it. I like the new menu better. I do not understand the author's aversion. Sure we can talk about "picture of food" vs "what was served" but have you been... anywhere? This is the reality of all food advertisement. I've never in my life been served a plate of food that perfectly matched the picture unless it was a user-uploaded image. Getting a decent idea of what the dish looks like is valuable (especia…

I feel like we read different articles, because without context, the pictured dish looked like overcooked pork chops served next to a type of carbonara tagliatelle topped with a fried egg & chives. I can't imagine anyone has ever set out to make spamsilog and ended up with the generated dish.

It's different in kind to a "my Big Mac is more squashed than the advert on TV" type situation.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #28

Well at least the peas weren't upside down... https://preview.redd.it/the-peas-are-upside-down-v0-5pwo713b...

I don't think that's AI. It looks more like crappy photoshop.

Not even photoshop. Literal cut and paste of physical photos :D

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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I've come around to the other side of this in a way. I used to think "wow they don't care at all" the same way I previously looked at menus clearly made in MS Word: The place will probably be cheap and they don't care about having fancy menu design. From there, it's two possibilities: -They care about the food at the expensive of design and it's going to be cheap and great (good) -They care about the food as much as…

Perhaps in part Berkson’s paradox in action? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkson's_paradox

Possibly, but I think it’s a bit more intuitive than that. It’s basically just like companies with terrible websites:

Most of them are terrible because they no longer exist, have no budget because they’re not making money, or because they’re bad at doing things generally.

But then there’s a set of companies that do fantastically well and are so busy serving customers (or are satisfied with their results) that their website doesn’t matter. In that case, the bad website is an indicator for a good product.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how AI poster designs have taken over local advertising Tale as old as time: a race to the bottom. Businesses trying to cut corners, thinking they can offset it against losses from exiting customers. If it wasn't, a lot will just cut more corners.

I don't think it's a corner cutting thing though. These businesses weren't paying someone to make a flier. The business owner was sweating for an hour in Microsoft Word and producing something that looked terrible. I expect they are now investing approximately the same about of time iterating in ChatGPT and producing something that genuinely looks like a huge improvement to them.

This.

I said it elsewhere in this thread differently but people want to pretend the options are:

1. Paying a local designer to make a bespoke beautiful poster

OR

2. Use AI

It's not, the money is often just not there to pay someone. So you get whatever the intern or the owner can slap together in whatever tool they know best (which is rarely the best tool for the job).

It's completely understandable that they would reach for LLMs to help improve their posters.

So many people are anti-AI/anti-LLM just because it is AI/LLM, not because it's objectively worse than the alternative. It's tiring.

It's the Electron vs Native argument all over again. Sure, we'd all love hand-crafted, beautiful, low-resource native applications for everything, that takes a lot of time and/or money. It's a decision between Native and Electron, it's a decision between Electron or nothing (or at best only 1 OS supported).

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My perspective on this, as someone skeptical of (but also bullish on) AI, is complex and I haven't completely nailed it down. My knee-jerk reaction is instant credibility loss for the business/person/thing. Follow-on is sadness (what are we losing in society because of this?), and curiosity: if a polished appearance (even if it is mega plastic) is no longer a sign of quality, then what is? What signals do I need to l…

A high degree of polish was tangible evidence that someone in the organization gave a shit about their work.

Or a third party was paid a one-time fee to make something look good - which still isn't a testament to the quality of the first party's service they're providing.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #30

I'm fascinated by how AI poster designs have taken over local advertising in seemingly just the last six months - presumably because ChatGPT Images and Gemini Nano Banana finally got good enough at outputting text without obvious defects in the typography. The posters all look good - much better than their desktop publishing predecessors. And yet they also eat away at the credibility of the event or business for me.…

I definitely roll my eyes whenever i see a poster with that obvious-AI-generated cartoon-people style. or the "edgy rock-and-roll poster" style that seems to be so prevalent. It seems that everyone generating posters is using the same 3 prompts! it's maddening.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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If 1000's of years from now aliens discovers these menus while excavating buried human cities they will get confused about what evolutionary dissonance was going on looking at the phenotypical structure of creatures in hand drawn paintings juxtaposed with AI drawn menus. "Did these humans who drew these live in different cut off worlds that these same animals evolved to look so different from each other?", "Did they engage in active genetic engineering instead(because they lived only for a few 1000 years in organized societies)?" they would hypothesize and get confused.

Future alien confusion is all that Gen-AI pictures add. There is no value to them that is remotely redeeming/useful to us today.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A high degree of polish was tangible evidence that someone in the organization gave a shit about their work.

Or a third party was paid a one-time fee to make something look good - which still isn't a testament to the quality of the first party's service they're providing.

Sure, but it means that they managed to pick third-parties they work with that give a shit. They could have always picked ones that didn't.

When you're buying a pig in a poke (which is always the case when you're a first-time customer), this is a positive signal.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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I'm starting to see more and more generated images of food at restaurants where I live, but I'm happy to say that its still somewhat rare. My partner and I usually just give a one star review each on Google when we pass by a place like this and then carry on.

Just so I have this clear, you rate a restaurant badly based on the pictures of the food and not the taste/flavor/etc? These places are doing their best to compete in a cutthroat environment with often razor-thin margins but you are willing to write them off and actively try to harm them for reaching for a tool to try and meet consumer's ever-increasing expectations? Just like in the native vs electron debate it's no…

Pictures aren’t mandatory. Most restaurants don’t have them.
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