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Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Post by bobthebob »

furyofantares wrote: post #167
simonw wrote: post #30

I'm fascinated by how AI poster designs have taken over local advertising in seemingly just the last six months - presumably because ChatGPT Images and Gemini Nano Banana finally got good enough at outputting text without obvious defects in the typography. The posters all look good - much better than their desktop publishing predecessors. And yet they also eat away at the credibility of the event or business for me.…

> The posters all look good - much better than their desktop publishing predecessors. They all look awful to me, visually extremely busy, nowhere to focus. The text is the same. Useless text and visual details everywhere, no opinion about what's important shining through, nothing to focus on.

Thanks I’ll use this in my prompt to make a better advertisements

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Post by self_awareness »

IDK, the menu is not that bad for a person that is outside the context and sees both menus for the first time. The photo is also not that bad -- of course it would be better to use real photos, I've no idea why they aren't doing this (probably reprinting menus is not a trivial problem), but it kind of gives some hints about the dish. As someone who doesn't have a clue, the new menu gives me some information that the old menu didn't.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Post by Planktonne »

teo_zero wrote: post #174
matthewowen wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was talking to my daughter a few weeks ago about a coffee shop that was opening soon and I said that based on the posters in the window it probably wouldn’t be very good. She didn’t really understand how I could draw that conclusion and I explained that you could tell that they had been stretched to fit the available dimensions in a way that clearly distorted the images and text. And that like… if you’re careless a…

> if you’re careless about one thing like that you’re probably careless about other things I'm not convinced. This rule holds only if the two "things" are related. But one can have a passion for serving the best quality coffee, and be a total wreck in graphic arts.

If you're really passionate about serving the best quality coffee, you'll be passionate about the experience around that, and you'll put effort in even if it doesn't pay off.

AI-generated art signals that you didn't put effort in, and so aren't passionate about the experience, and so aren't really passionate about the central thing.

"At least you tried" is not a high standard, but it's the one that AI art fails.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Post by Planktonne »

bobthebob wrote: post #181
furyofantares wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The posters all look good - much better than their desktop publishing predecessors. They all look awful to me, visually extremely busy, nowhere to focus. The text is the same. Useless text and visual details everywhere, no opinion about what's important shining through, nothing to focus on.

Thanks I’ll use this in my prompt to make a better advertisements

This is a genuine comment, rather than snark, though I appreciate it might initially look that way.

Your comment is an example of something that seems to accrue around AI users: casual, even gleeful, spite. You don't get this with every technology; there is no significant strand of the pro-3D printing community, for example, that goes around taunting people who don't use printers themselves.

It's significant, I think, that this sort of attitude is common around AI, but not other technologies, and it does have a meaningful impact on public attitudes around it. I'm not sure whether it's a result of using AI, or a characteristic that leads to a propensity for AI, but there's something here.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Post by orphea »

JodieBenitez wrote: post #184

Apart from the AI/Not AI, I dislike photos on menus. It can be deceptive once the dishes are on the table or it can completely spoil the surprise.

I need photos in menu. I don't want surprises, I want to choose what I will eat, which is often extremely difficult when you only see cryptic names of dishes, maybe a list of ingredients too, if you're especially lucky.

Re: Businesses with ugly AI menu redesigns

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Post by Planktonne »

pessimizer wrote: post #147
recursive wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not caring is the middle ground.

Only if there were a group of people who were angrily repelled by non-AI things.

There's definitely a group of people who trumpet continually that AI is going to replace everything soon and anyone who doesn't use it maximally will be left behind.
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