How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA • Hacker News Board

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by floxy » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:28 PM UTC

HappyPanacea wrote: post #204

wat10000 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US did not agree to protect them. The signatures to the Budapest Memorandum agreed to respect Ukraine's sovereignty. Of the signatories, Russia is the only one that has violated the agreement.

Are you sure about that? Wikipedia says the following: " 3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus, and Kazakhstan of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind. 4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggress…

The actual memorandum is shorter than the Wikipedia article about it. The English-language portion is literally only three pages of double spaced text.

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/P...

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by habinero » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:29 PM UTC

mothballed wrote: post #45

dominicq wrote: post #21

This is infuriating. The EU should block US sanctions violating EU interests. I'm also definitely moving my personal stuff out of US and into EU, starting with Gmail.

Almost every bank in FATF white and gray list countries use the dollar in some way, so although your actions will help, in the end if you're sanctioned and you depend on traditional finance systems you are fucked. There is a guy on here, weev (username rabite) who was soft sanctioned by the US and can't use banks that transact in the dollar. Last I read of his comments, he was in Ukraine or Transnistria, surviving of…

Weev absolutely deserved to be unbanked, and he put himself in that position. He's not some freedom fighter.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by general1465 » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:32 PM UTC

nalekberov wrote: post #187

vfclists wrote: post #98

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The EU leadership are a very corrupt group who set themselves up to be open to the highest bidders from day one, and those are mostly US corporations and those of other countries when the US hasn't place sanctions on them. The antitrust fines they impose on those American companies may simply be regarded as a cost of doing business. When it comes to being indifferent to the welfare of the general populace, they are j…

> The antitrust fines they impose on those American companies may simply be regarded as a cost of doing business. You nailed it right on the head. Those fines are peanuts for big corporations.

But even then they are big enough for these corporations to run and complain to Trump that that big bad EU is punishing them.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by watwut » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:32 PM UTC

breppp wrote: post #108

watwut wrote: post #100

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> Israeli bombings of Gaza were far more precise and less directed at a civilian population They were literally intentionally directed at civilian population. With special focus on healthcare workers. The attempt to starve them was intentional too. There was even open rhetoric about that.

> They were literally intentionally directed at civilian population. With special focus on healthcare workers no, they were directed at the militant organizations in Gaza while the civilian population was warned to evacuate in advance. the only thing you can base this on is the fact hamas intentionally does not publish its dead, all of the casualties are "civilians", and Hamas was caught either converting dead milita…

They just happened to disproportionally kill doctors, first responders and other medical workers. And hospitals. No, they were not focused at militant organization.

And also foreign journalists and workers. No reason for scare quotes, their deaths are well documented.

As for starwation, well documented too. Policy of not allowing food in was going on for months, Israel intentionally creating issues with distribution was going on for months.

Genocidal rhetorics was present too, like you are literally lying here.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by lukan » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:34 PM UTC

floxy wrote: post #231

HappyPanacea wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure about that? Wikipedia says the following: " 3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus, and Kazakhstan of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind. 4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggress…

The actual memorandum is shorter than the Wikipedia article about it. The English-language portion is literally only three pages of double spaced text. https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/P...

But the quotes you seem to challenge are also part of the original document you just linked.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by floxy » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:35 PM UTC

lukan wrote: post #235

floxy wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The actual memorandum is shorter than the Wikipedia article about it. The English-language portion is literally only three pages of double spaced text. https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/P...

But the quotes you seem to challenge are also part of the original document you just linked.

I didn't challenge anything. Just posting a link to the actual source documentation.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by dmix » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:35 PM UTC

trzy wrote: post #219

dmix wrote: post #198

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> Invasion just means Russian soldiers enter Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Finnland. So invasion means a full war with NATO?

Given the pained debate here by Western Europeans over the semantics of “Europe” and Ukraine’s relationship therewith, it’s very unlikely NATO would act and that’s precisely what the Russians would bet on.

Russia's best case scenario atm is they take more of eastern Ukraine and the west establishes a DMZ not far from the current frontlines. Pushing up anywhere close to Lviv/Polish border would be like winning the lottery given their current track record.

These sorts of wars are very rare in the modern era. They gambled entirely because they faced an army they were 10x the size and they got embarrassed. There's near zero strategic logic in trying again vs NATO after they lost most of their fancy gear.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by general1465 » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:36 PM UTC

The more USA is going to use this leaver, the likely they will make this leaver useless in the future. Like with China, when they overused chips leaver which stunted China for a while, but eventually gave them a way to establish their own chip industry. Now that leaver is becoming effectively useless. It will ends up same with EU.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by cptroot » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:37 PM UTC

kelipso wrote: post #150

bryanlarsen wrote: post #138

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General strikes weren't particularly common in the 60's in the US and those protests were considered widespread and effective.

The No Kings “general strikes” consist almost entirely of retired people. I’m sure I saw anyone under 60 in those protests.

This is strictly false. Plenty of working age people went, and many brought their children.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by 10000truths » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:42 PM UTC

anonymousiam wrote: post #228

poplarsol wrote: post #203

Must suck to be subjected to extraterritorial jurisdiction from a body you have never acknowledged the authority of.

Your comment can be interpreted in two ways: 1) It must suck for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant to be subject to a rogue French judge. 2) It must suck for the judge to face consequences from the US.

I think the ambiguity was deliberate.