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Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by dmix » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:09 PM UTC

fatbird wrote: post #186

hardlianotion wrote: post #54

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It’s kind of hard to see how much more support the US could withdraw from Ukraine, judging by the last article I read that gave Ukraine until Thursday to accept the latest peace deal negotiated between USA and Russia. If we are in the world you describe, EU might as well do as it wants - its downside has been capped.

While US weapons aid has basically been cut off, then somewhat restored through European purchases, US intel sharing has been relatively consistent and continuous throughout, and Ukraine is very dependent on it. When intel sharing was suspended for several weeks, Ukraine lost almost half the ground it had taken in Kursk. At a minimum, satellite intel is key to monitoring Russian dispositions, and Ukraine has no way t…

US also authorized the use of their own ballistic missiles in Russia proper this past week which was a big deal.

They also have another $1B budgeted in defense spending for Ukraine next year https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-committee-backs-m...

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by triceratops » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:09 PM UTC

TimorousBestie wrote: post #173

triceratops wrote: post #156

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> they did effectively erase two cities from the world map They're still there last time I checked. Hiroshima has a population of ~1m. Nagasaki closer to 300k. > how that isn't a "Crime against Humanity" An invasion of Japan would have cost an order of magnitude more lives. It was the 4th year of an extremely bitter conflict that Japan started. There were no real good options on the table. Only "shit" and "extremely…

> They're still there last time I checked. Hiroshima has a population of ~1m. Nagasaki closer to 300k. This is an argument by equivocation. There’s still a “World Trade Center” in NYC but it’s not the one that fell in 2001. Nor does saying it’s so restore the dead to life. > An invasion of Japan would have cost an order of magnitude more lives. It was the 4th year of an extremely bitter conflict that Japan started. T…

If you were Harry Truman in April 1945, what would you have done? Honest, direct answer, no hemming and hawing.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by poplarsol » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:10 PM UTC

Must suck to be subjected to extraterritorial jurisdiction from a body you have never acknowledged the authority of.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by HappyPanacea » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:10 PM UTC

wat10000 wrote: post #167

immibis wrote: post #117

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Ukraine WAS a nuclear weapons state, until the US agreed to protect them from Russia with the US's nuclear weapons, if they gave up their own.

The US did not agree to protect them. The signatures to the Budapest Memorandum agreed to respect Ukraine's sovereignty. Of the signatories, Russia is the only one that has violated the agreement.

Are you sure about that? Wikipedia says the following: "

3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus, and Kazakhstan of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.

4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".

Both seems to not happen as stipulated.

Edit: I didn't read properly, 4 obviously didn't happen, my bad.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by vlovich123 » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:10 PM UTC

embedding-shape wrote: post #97

TimorousBestie wrote: post #64

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American involvement in the Nuremberg trials set the stage for the modern era of international law. It began with the United States, along with the allied nations, constructing a post-facto legal definition of crime against humanity that somehow included the Holocaust but excluded both the American campaign in Japan and various Russian war crimes on the Western Front. It’s not cynicism to point out the clear hypocris…

Not to mention Jim Crow was still in full effect in the US at the time, but somehow wasn't deemed "Crime against humanity". The winners truly do control the history.

Was Jim Crow a federally organized policy bent on extermination? It was state level discrimination that Nazi Germany copied in 1933-1938 to deal with their “Jewish problem”. By 1939 you had formal government-enforced ghettos with forced labor (no equivalent in America at the time) and by 1941 you had mass extinction.

Don’t get me wrong - Jim Crow was horrific. But it was state level after effects of the civil war and failure to establish absolute dominance over the southern states in reconstruction. Cultural problems we fought a civil war over and we’re still dealing with today. But one difference of the goal with slavery and Jim Crow is subjugation not extermination

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by MiiMe19 » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:10 PM UTC

TimorousBestie wrote: post #173

triceratops wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they did effectively erase two cities from the world map They're still there last time I checked. Hiroshima has a population of ~1m. Nagasaki closer to 300k. > how that isn't a "Crime against Humanity" An invasion of Japan would have cost an order of magnitude more lives. It was the 4th year of an extremely bitter conflict that Japan started. There were no real good options on the table. Only "shit" and "extremely…

> They're still there last time I checked. Hiroshima has a population of ~1m. Nagasaki closer to 300k. This is an argument by equivocation. There’s still a “World Trade Center” in NYC but it’s not the one that fell in 2001. Nor does saying it’s so restore the dead to life. > An invasion of Japan would have cost an order of magnitude more lives. It was the 4th year of an extremely bitter conflict that Japan started. T…

I mean, you are the one arguing that they were erased from the map when clearly they were not. And either way, to say that millions of Americans should have died to invade a country that sided with the Nazis and killed bajillions of Chinese and Koreans unjustly is simply incorrect.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by HappyPanacea » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:12 PM UTC

PeterStuer wrote: post #188

dxdm wrote: post #179

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GP is talking about the invasion of Ukraine, taking place just beyond the EU eastern border, and very much shaking up the European security situation, and the EU and its member states are visibly having to "deal with it", diplomatically, economically and in terms of their practical defense postures. That's what they meant with "at the border", and not a literal invasion of the EU. (Edited for a less confrontational b…

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Russia failed to create a convincing casus belli to the rest of the world and seen as the indisputable aggressor pretty much everywhere.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by contagiousflow » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:12 PM UTC

chatmasta wrote: post #77

throw0101c wrote: post #47

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> If everyone agreed to arbitrate world matters in the ICC, why even have militaries? That's… kind of the point? To not have to kill and destroy each other to settle disputes.

Yeah sounds great. But it’s hopelessly naive. As soon as someone disagrees, if they have more real power than the ICC, then its enforcement becomes ineffective. You can’t solve disagreements by agreeing to disagree.

Why have municipal laws? Everyone can just carry around an AK-47 and decide what's right and wrong for them

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by usea » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:13 PM UTC

PeterStuer wrote: post #188

dxdm wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GP is talking about the invasion of Ukraine, taking place just beyond the EU eastern border, and very much shaking up the European security situation, and the EU and its member states are visibly having to "deal with it", diplomatically, economically and in terms of their practical defense postures. That's what they meant with "at the border", and not a literal invasion of the EU. (Edited for a less confrontational b…

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Russia.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by prasadjoglekar » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:13 PM UTC

foogazi wrote: post #177

prasadjoglekar wrote: post #11

TLDR: he's a member of the ICC. Issues warrants against Israeli political leaders. Neither Israel nor the USA (nor China, Russia, India) are parties to the international conventions that formed the ICC. He's being sanctioned as a result by the USA, which flowed down to US companies who must follow US law.

> He's being sanctioned as a result by the USA As a result of what ? What’s the trigger cause of the US sanctions ? ICC can’t issue warrants against non ICC countries?

Of course they can. Good luck trying to serve and execute that warrant though.

And non ICC countries are squarely within their rights to retailiate. Most minor former colonies of the EU countries can't, but the US, China, Russia can.