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Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by mystified5016 »

Alifatisk wrote: post #72
queuebert wrote: post #27

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Linux is in desperate need of a PR campaign. The popular distros are just as functional out of the box as Windows, but no one knows it.

> The popular distros are just as functional out of the box as Windows Give me some names that works out of the box and resembles Windows. I have not tried Linux mint so I don't know how well it works for older people. Ubuntu has been quite good and stable but it has also required fiddling with the terminal. The only one I found to be the best alternative to Windows is ... believe it or not, DeepinOS.

I gave my husband Manjaro and he's fine. I gave him a shell script to force update discord (ugh) but he only has to double click it.

People like to freak about how arch isn't for newbies but honestly it's fine. I find it to be just as stable as Debian.

But let's be real, aside from gaming, 99% of what the average user does with a computer is open a web browser. Dekstop apps are secondary. If you put a Firefox/chrome button in the task bar, you've covered most user requirements.

Power users who actually need a bunch of proper desktop applications have a different set of needs. It's impossible to generalize, but a very large fraction of those users would probably be happy with the Linux alternatives, or wine and proton. A lobotomized W10 LTSC VM is also quite usable.

most users won't know or care they're on Linux if the browser works.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by [deleted] »

t_mann wrote: post #77

Windows 11 looks like the perfect reason to give UNIX-based systems another try. Literally the only thing that's kept me hooked to Windows are the Office apps. They're baked into so many of my workflows, from creating simple graphics to doing my personal finances, and of course plenty of legacy documents that I'd like to continue being able to use. They're really Windows-native I've found, even the official versions…

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Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by delduca »

greenavocado wrote: post #32

If you burn an ISO with Rufus it has a checkbox to skip the checks. You can also use the unattended installation system: https://github.com/memstechtips/UnattendedWinstall

+1 for this unattended installation, I have been using for while, no issues.

A true clean Windows installation.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by mebizzle »

lenova wrote: post #113
t_mann wrote: post #77

Windows 11 looks like the perfect reason to give UNIX-based systems another try. Literally the only thing that's kept me hooked to Windows are the Office apps. They're baked into so many of my workflows, from creating simple graphics to doing my personal finances, and of course plenty of legacy documents that I'd like to continue being able to use. They're really Windows-native I've found, even the official versions…

Long-time Windows user here that made the jump from Windows 11+WSL to Linux a few months ago. After test driving a few distros, I settled on CachyOS (an Arch-based distro)[1]. Performance wise it's smooth as heck, and Geekbench scores show it performing better than Win11 across the board. The default install uses KDE Plasma for its desktop, which is a perfect fit for Windows users like myself in terms of UX/UI. For a…

Can't recommend this enough, I was letting a few games with anticheat keep my personal use on Windows and I decided to jettison those and make the plunge and couldnt be happier.

I went with Mint instead of an arch-based distro, but my experience has been really great even dealing with Geforce drivers.

I use the 365 suite in a web browser if I need to work on it , no issues.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by contingencies »

t_mann wrote: post #77

Windows 11 looks like the perfect reason to give UNIX-based systems another try. Literally the only thing that's kept me hooked to Windows are the Office apps. They're baked into so many of my workflows, from creating simple graphics to doing my personal finances, and of course plenty of legacy documents that I'd like to continue being able to use. They're really Windows-native I've found, even the official versions…

https://www.lyx.org/ (for print documentation), markdown (for normal documentation)

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by lenova »

mikkelam wrote: post #150
lenova wrote: post #113

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Long-time Windows user here that made the jump from Windows 11+WSL to Linux a few months ago. After test driving a few distros, I settled on CachyOS (an Arch-based distro)[1]. Performance wise it's smooth as heck, and Geekbench scores show it performing better than Win11 across the board. The default install uses KDE Plasma for its desktop, which is a perfect fit for Windows users like myself in terms of UX/UI. For a…

How do you know if someone uses Arch Linux? Don't worry they'll tell you ;) All kidding aside, I recently migrated to EndeavourOS, but CachyOS looks dope too

Ahaha, I've become that person I guess. I only mentioned Arch as I've always used Ubuntu when using Linux desktop VMs, and even test drove Kubuntu before trying out Cachy. Apart from some brief time getting used to pacman as a package manager instead of apt, I haven't encountered any other items that felt different to Ubuntu.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by bendhoefs »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #189
graemep wrote: post #176

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Why is resembles Windows important? Macos does not and is doing fine, so is Chromeos, so is Android. Even Windows can be quite different from older versions of Windows.

Because if you wish to convince people they should switch from Windows, that's a very important factor. People do not like change, and they want the skills they have to transfer over as much as possible.

This is a bad idea. You can make Linux look like Windows on the surface but people are going to then be surprised and frustrated when it doesn't act like Windows, it will come off as cheap imitation. People get confused about the idea of something as simple as the concept of a single root file system, they will not understand that coming from a world of C, D, and E drives. It's best to make it look foreign to them so that they don't have their expectations subverted when they realize it actually is a fundamentally different operating system.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by thewebguyd »

leviathant wrote: post #161
trinix912 wrote: post #105

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I'd bet my money that if we took a Windows 10 and a macOS High Sierra laptop, the Windows one would run supported versions of apps much longer than the macOS one, even if one upgraded to the latest supported macOS on that machine while staying on Windows 10 as the time went on. MacOS apps target the latest few versions and given macOS' rapid release cycle (in comparison to Windows, at least), you can easily find your…

Without a doubt, Microsoft wins on backward compatibility. I was running a circa-2006 Firewire audio device on Windows 10 in 2021 using drivers that had not been updated since 2012. I had a Dell Laptop that, when I bought it in 2006, had Windows XP on it. I was able to upgrade it all the way to Windows 10, at no charge. (The beta versions of Windows 7 and Windows 8 both just kind of rolled over into full fledged vers…

I've also been a long time user of Microsoft's OSes, and despite many others here on HN, I actually liked windows almost the whole time I was a user.

I switched when Apple Silicon came out as well, but had a few flirtations with macOS prior to that with Intel macs. Finder is dog shit compared to almost any other file manager on both Windows and Linux. So much so that I just use the terminal now for almost all file tasks.

I don't love macOS, but I hate what Windows has become more, and these laptops are hard to beat, almost perfect combination of performance & battery life.

I suppose if Apple ever fully iOS-isfys macOS I'll just end up on Linux full-time, and I keep Mint on a spare laptop to toy with, I don't mind it, but I have no need to fully switch yet.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by marcosdumay »

cesarb wrote: post #42
Daunk wrote: post #25

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I recently found out that a friend of mine installed Linux on his own, completely removing his Windows install. And he has yet to "fiddle with the terminal", but still enjoys gaming on Steam and goes on with his daily routine.

One thing I've observed is that people who started using Linux a long time ago (which is my case) tend to slide into the command line, even when there's a perfectly good GUI alternative. Want to rename a file? Why use F2, just open a terminal, cd to the path, and mv the file. Newer users who started with the GUI are less likely to have these habits.

The terminal is easier, allows for calm editing and reviewing, sharing the procedure, and is way more text-friendly than GUI file managers.

If you don't know how to do it, then yeah, you'll probably use a GUI manager. But those people will probably learn how to use a terminal if they do something a lot.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by thewebguyd »

saratogacx wrote: post #36
Mindwipe wrote: post #33

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It's pretty obviously two middle managers fighting each other, and senior management is too distracted by AI to worry about core products being on fire.

Maybe if the renamed the bypass Microsoft Windows 11 Installer Co-Pilot for Legacy Systems it would get their attention.

Then next year, Microsoft Windows 11 Installer Co-Pilot for Legacy Systems (new)
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