If you burn an ISO with Rufus it has a checkbox to skip the checks. You can also use the unattended installation system: https://github.com/memstechtips/UnattendedWinstall
Here's another https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/
Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs
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Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Valorant requires it for anticheat. The purpose is to prevent users from running unauthorized software on the computers they allegedly own. I wouldn't expect many examples to exist yet. You want to wait until almost everyone is on Windows 11 before you get up to those shenanigans.
Valorant uses VBS, which in turn requires TPM 2.0. Valorant isn't directly leveraging TPM. https://support-valorant.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/169...
They're leveraging TPMs in the sense that they're banning specific ones.
Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remember boot-sector viruses? The TPM helps prevent those. DRM is not something that the TPM enables or helps with or facilitates in any way. Please read this, and do your part to make the world a bit more educated, on average: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module#Overvi... If you don't dismiss my comment as the comment of a corporate shill, you might learn something, and in the future that knowledge…
> Remember boot-sector viruses? The TPM helps prevent those. What prevents boot sector viruses is Secure Boot, not TPM.
True, but someone disabling Secure Boot will cause the TPM not to release BitLocker keys. Making attempts at subverting it noisier.
Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Valorant requires it for anticheat. The purpose is to prevent users from running unauthorized software on the computers they allegedly own. I wouldn't expect many examples to exist yet. You want to wait until almost everyone is on Windows 11 before you get up to those shenanigans.
> The purpose is to prevent users from running unauthorized software on the computers they allegedly own. I've maintained for several years now that the actual corporate wet dream is that they can lock down the average PC architecture/OS to the same degree they have on phones. Because unfortunately, in the phone sector, the market has already shown the majority of users don't care who really owns their devices. My ho…
Because unfortunately, in the phone sector, the market has already shown the majority of users don't care who really owns their devices.
My hope is that Linux gets wide enough adoption to prevent that from becoming a feasible option for them in the future.
Linux already got a really wide adoption --- in the form of Android.
Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
How long does Apple keep updating MacOS's for older hardware? That I'm aware, there are iPhone models that were discontinued (Vs. Windows 10 is just under 10 years old now - and I don't know what's the newest Windows 10 system that can't update to Window 11.)
2017 for macOS 15 (2018 for mainstream Macs): https://support.apple.com/en-us/120282 A few years shorter than the Win 10 lifecycle. Much shorter than the XP lifecycle, though that was unusual.
I'd bet my money that if we took a Windows 10 and a macOS High Sierra laptop, the Windows one would run supported versions of apps much longer than the macOS one, even if one upgraded to the latest supported macOS on that machine while staying on Windows 10 as the time went on.
MacOS apps target the latest few versions and given macOS' rapid release cycle (in comparison to Windows, at least), you can easily find yourself with a machine <10 years old that can't run the latest versions of apps you're using.
Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linux is in desperate need of a PR campaign. The popular distros are just as functional out of the box as Windows, but no one knows it.
In my experience, it is not about functionality. It is about polish, integrations, and troubleshooting. If you assume all your devices and software will work on Linux mint out of the box, great. But they won't. Then you end up spending hours trying to get the 5th mouse button to do what it does automatically in Windows. Sure there's a fancy utility on Linux that supports programming that mouse, good luck getting your…
I think it's about habit more than anything. People are used to Windows' sharp edges and have developed workarounds (just reboot it).
But no, the experience is nowhere near "polished", and troubleshooting is a joke. "Something unexpected happened" or "contact your administrator" isn't exactly helpful. Sure, there may be some log somewhere in that godawful event viewer, but who has the patience to wait for that abomination to load? And then to go spelunking in the millions of categories?
Windows is hands-down the most annoying and janky computing experience among all my devices. I put up with it because I like Photoshop, and since I have PCs lying around can't justify buying a MacBook (plus Linux works well enough for all my other needs).
HiDPI support is a joke, with windows showing up wherever they want, the start menu becoming blurry, taskbar menus appearing at random locations on the screen. The windows jump up and down when switching virtual desktops. Windows appear as active, complete with a blinking cursor and everything, yet won't register text input until I click on them. I could go on for days.
Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
I recently found out that a friend of mine installed Linux on his own, completely removing his Windows install. And he has yet to "fiddle with the terminal", but still enjoys gaming on Steam and goes on with his daily routine.
One thing I've observed is that people who started using Linux a long time ago (which is my case) tend to slide into the command line, even when there's a perfectly good GUI alternative. Want to rename a file? Why use F2, just open a terminal, cd to the path, and mv the file. Newer users who started with the GUI are less likely to have these habits.
For me personally it depends on what's the most convenient at the moment.
I've played around with Debian for several years using it for small little servers. They do not need to have a monitor connected, so i never use a gui.
When using my Steam Deck i don't have a keyboard and the virtual keyboard is kinda annoying, so i use the gui.
I can't seem to get used to work with a Debian installed laptop. I've tried many times, but i don't see a daily beneficial goal to use Linux, mostly because i'll always get Windows 10/11 working :)
Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linux is in desperate need of a PR campaign. The popular distros are just as functional out of the box as Windows, but no one knows it.
In my experience, it is not about functionality. It is about polish, integrations, and troubleshooting. If you assume all your devices and software will work on Linux mint out of the box, great. But they won't. Then you end up spending hours trying to get the 5th mouse button to do what it does automatically in Windows. Sure there's a fancy utility on Linux that supports programming that mouse, good luck getting your…
"mother" has no need for a 5 button programmable mouse, nor does she have a need for applications beyond the web browser. No troubleshooting required.
Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs
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> Security There's a pretty interesting video from 2023 that goes through much of Microsoft's thoughts around Windows security. It flew under the radar unfortunately: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T6ClX-y2AE
Do you have a TL;DW? It's an hour long video
- Windows 11 has provided a hardware security baseline for Microsoft, with features that require hardware support (HVCI, TPM etc) to be enabled by default going forward, stating that Windows 10 strategy of off-by-default was a failure.
- Admin accounts are a continued security problem within the Windows ecosystem, so a future version of Windows will be adding a new "Adminless" account model with linux-like just-in-time escalation. This new model intends to provide a secure middle-ground between the frustrations of a standard user account and the security risks of an Admin account. "Adminless" accounts will run as a "less privileged" user by default and prompt users with Windows Hello when an application requires escalation for a given operation, rather than permanently running the account as a standard or admin user.
- Win32 Applications will be bundled under the new Win32 App Isolation model, which provides the security benefits of UWP sandboxing & clean uninstalls without the API limitations of UWP. Developers will be able to specify what privileges an application requires, much like other application platforms. A demo was shown of Notepad++ running under this sandbox model with minimal modification.
-TPMs within the ecosystem are not in a healthy state, with telemetry telling Microsoft that many are running vulnerable firmware due to manufactures not pushing out updates, and some being inoperable due to hardware failures or other issues. Microsoft is working on its Pluton security chip to replace/augment the existing TPM ecosystem and have the ability to push out firmware updates via Windows Update.
- Software/Hardware mitigations are reaching the end of the road in terms of viability. Microsoft is now focused on eliminating classes of security bugs with extensive R&D going into the use of Memory-safe languages (Rust) in areas of the system that exploits often appear in.
Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs
#110What is Microsoft hoping to accomplish here? Given the rate of adoption of Windows 11, it seems unlikely that a majority of Windows 10 users will replace their hardware between now and October. It also seems to me that the scenario where a majority of PC users are running an unsupported Windows release is likely to create MS more problems than is offset by potential revenue from a hardware refresh cycle. Is there an…
What you've said does seem plausible. But on the other hand there are valid reasons for requiring a minimum baseline for Windows 11. The TPM requirements for example allow seamless BitLocker (which provides feature-parity with macOS), it allows secure system credential storage (in both consumer and enterprise contexts) and it's also useful for application developers. For example Chrome can defend user data better aga…
Allowing old devices without those TPM requirements to work would not limit security of the devices that can work with it.
Sooner or later, these non windows 11 compliant machines will mostly disappear from most households and offices and will only attract retro computing and linux users when they will not match the usual memory requirements of the day. These are usually the kind of computers that came with 8GB or less of memory out of the box and they could quietly drop support for them somewhere later within the next 10 years when everybody is running 128GB of ram or so and only a handful of people care about it.